Schapelle Corby - Innocent or Guilty?

[varekai]

Thats a little bit like saying "All t1ts are the same, once you've seen one set, you've seen the lot". The reality is they are all different although they are basically similar.
Dope is the same. The seeds are the key and different quality dope produces different quality seed. The growing proceedure, hydroponic or otherwise, only determines the conditions and manner in which the plants are cultivated and does little to determine the quality (for lack of a better word to descibe a narcotic). The botanist of the world could probably explain it better, but it probably comes back to the genetic make up of the dope, in the seeds.

Whether dope is grown hydroponically in Bali or otherwise, is not the issue in this case. Travellers to Bali see plenty of warnings of the perils of bringing drugs into the country. If you ignore the warnings, are caught, tried and convicted, you must expect to suffer the consequences of your actions. Making a "crying" circus for the media does little to invoke sympathy in the judical system of the sovereign country involved.

No one takes marijuana to Bali, anymore than they would take cocaine to Columbia or heroin to Afghanistan!
No so called "Australian Aussie Gold" has ever been detected in Bali...ever!
Indonesian law requires at least two pieces of concrete evidence before a conviction can be sought. They had the mj itself as the first piece...so where did the second piece come from??
But first, who do you believe?? Do you believe those that were begging for an investigation into how the drugs could have got into Schapelle's bag...and demanding fingerprinting of the bag containing the drugs...and demanding forensic and dna testing for origin...and demanding luggage weights to compare with check in weight...and for cctv tapes to back up their story???
OR, do you believe those that did everything in their power and bent over backwards to avoid the lot?? Which one is it?.. You've got two choices, it's not hard, pick ONE!
So where did the second piece of evidence come from that the Bali police required for a possible conviction?? Well, guess what!.. It came FIVE MONTHS LATER, when the customs officer was sworn in as an officer of the court, and in doing so, it was then deemed that his testomony will be accepted as the truth!
Yet that second piece of evidence was right under their nose on day one! Why would they ignore the best evidence they had.. and then scrounge around for five months before they got it when they could have nailed Schapelle right on the spot on 8th Oct, 2004?
It would have been impossible for Schapelle to continue pleading innocent...wouldn't it?!
So have you worked it out yet?...That the drugs were never in Australia in the first place, but that they were planted in Bali, hence the relluctance by the Bali cops to carry out any tests or investigation!
You don't need to be a Rhodes Schollar to see who put the drugs in Schapelle's bag, just common sense shows that!

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

No one takes marijuana to Bali, anymore than they would take cocaine to Columbia or heroin to Afghanistan!
No so called "Australian Aussie Gold" has ever been detected in Bali...ever!
Indonesian law requires at least two pieces of concrete evidence before a conviction can be sought. They had the mj itself as the first piece...so where did the second piece come from??
But first, who do you believe?? Do you believe those that were begging for an investigation into how the drugs could have got into Schapelle's bag...and demanding fingerprinting of the bag containing the drugs...and demanding forensic and dna testing for origin...and demanding luggage weights to compare with check in weight...and for cctv tapes to back up their story???
OR, do you believe those that did everything in their power and bent over backwards to avoid the lot?? Which one is it?.. You've got two choices, it's not hard, pick ONE!
So where did the second piece of evidence come from that the Bali police required for a possible conviction?? Well, guess what!.. It came FIVE MONTHS LATER, when the customs officer was sworn in as an officer of the court, and in doing so, it was then deemed that his testomony will be accepted as the truth!
Yet that second piece of evidence was right under their nose on day one! Why would they ignore the best evidence they had.. and then scrounge around for five months before they got it when they could have nailed Schapelle right on the spot on 8th Oct, 2004?
It would have been impossible for Schapelle to continue pleading innocent...wouldn't it?!
So have you worked it out yet?...That the drugs were never in Australia in the first place, but that they were planted in Bali, hence the relluctance by the Bali cops to carry out any tests or investigation!
You don't need to be a Rhodes Schollar to see who put the drugs in Schapelle's bag, just common sense shows that!

But vaerkai, mate, why on earth would they want to do that?

She sounds guilty to me mate on everything I've read on this thread.

Drug runners rarely get caught .

I watch Border Security and have become an expert on watching people in the background sneaking past our border with all kind of contraband.

They usually have some poor Chinese granny on camera crying her eyes out with five suitcases of live chooks, and in the background you can see the druggies getting through.

Watch it in the new series mate.

gg

 

[pilots]

Varekei, tell me this when you get offered grass in Bali, why do they call in Aussie gold.??
AS for the drugs, it was her bag, she said it was her bag, now she has 16 years to think as to why she did it. Varekei, why have you changed your nick??

 

[pilots]

No one takes marijuana to Bali, anymore than they would take cocaine to Columbia or heroin to Afghanistan!
No so called "Australian Aussie Gold" has ever been detected in Bali...ever!
Indonesian law requires at least two pieces of concrete evidence before a conviction can be sought. They had the mj itself as the first piece...so where did the second piece come from??
But first, who do you believe?? Do you believe those that were begging for an investigation into how the drugs could have got into Schapelle's bag...and demanding fingerprinting of the bag containing the drugs...and demanding forensic and dna testing for origin...and demanding luggage weights to compare with check in weight...and for cctv tapes to back up their story???
OR, do you believe those that did everything in their power and bent over backwards to avoid the lot?? Which one is it?.. You've got two choices, it's not hard, pick ONE!
So where did the second piece of evidence come from that the Bali police required for a possible conviction?? Well, guess what!.. It came FIVE MONTHS LATER, when the customs officer was sworn in as an officer of the court, and in doing so, it was then deemed that his testomony will be accepted as the truth!
Yet that second piece of evidence was right under their nose on day one! Why would they ignore the best evidence they had.. and then scrounge around for five months before they got it when they could have nailed Schapelle right on the spot on 8th Oct, 2004?
It would have been impossible for Schapelle to continue pleading innocent...wouldn't it?!
So have you worked it out yet?...That the drugs were never in Australia in the first place, but that they were planted in Bali, hence the relluctance by the Bali cops to carry out any tests or investigation!
You don't need to be a Rhodes Schollar to see who put the drugs in Schapelle's bag, just common sense shows that!

OK lets say the drugs was from Bali, what was the point, did they want some good looking bird to keep the jailers happy

 

[slim pickins]

They usually have some poor Chinese granny on camera crying her eyes out with five suitcases of live chooks, and in the background you can see the druggies getting through.

Watch it in the new series mate.

gg

excellent observation........live chooks

the drug smugglers are magicians. the'll bring it in under your nose. they'll use yachts, jet skis, drop it by aircraft, strap it to their body.

only a tip off can stop them. like in this case.... didnt her dad go to bali just weeks before? did he offer any explanation as to why he went? he never mentioned it during the trial. in the end they all lied, so they have no credibility.

as for corby's supplying the coast with drugs. who knows. probably.... the reason the cops didnt do anyhting about it is becasue the cops by and large dont interfere witht he drugs trade. if they did, you soon wouldn't be able to buy drugs in schools and prisons.

and if 10 people went to the cops with information about a drug smuggler and signed affidavits. the cops would have a good laugh about it. if you kept insisting they would charge you with interfering with police business. and if you kept doing it then and made it public... you'd be shot by someone.

dont take my word for it... try it!

FPSS,

you said you were locked up in laos. how long what for.... and how come you eventually walked? did you do the crime?

 

[Patsy]

Aussie Gold was a term coined by journalist - Neil McMahon. Undoubtably to assist him in selling his articles in the saturated market at that time. There is no evidence whatsoever that Australian MJ is exported to Indonesia. Aussie Gold is nothing other than a catchy phrase with no bearing whatsoever on fact.

The 20 year sentence is in no way a representation of justice.

Shapelle represents absolutely no threat to any society in any way.

The mainstream media in Australia is too weak, too frightened, too compliant or too stupid to bother reporting the facts or simply does not have the competency to do so.

The Australian press cannot be trusted to deliver any serious message of human right violations of its own people without reducing the violations as tacky tabloid "entertainment" to its audiences.

 

[nunthewiser]

Um ............. this lil duck thinks that these latest "supporters" all type and express there points in a very similar manner actually


coincidence?

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Um ............. this lil duck thinks that these latest "supporters" all type and express there points in a very similar manner actually


coincidence?

Agree, nun, if they wore lippie, you'd think they were going in for the Olympics in the Synchronised Swimming.

gg

 

[Stormin_Norman]

its mercedes in various photoshopped poses isnt it?

 

[ColB]

Originally posted by Nunthewiser:

"Um ............. this lil duck thinks that these latest "supporters" all type and express there points in a very similar manner actually."

coincidence?

Spot on Nunsa! The only significance of a 'candle' to these new 'posters' is something they can light their joint with

 

[Stormin_Norman]

pass it to the left...come on.

 

[nunthewiser]

pass it to the left...come on.

any of youse guys wanna carry my boogie board ?

 

[pilots]

Yes, they are all new posters, strange that, don't tell me we have to put up with this for the next sixteen years

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Spot on Nunsa! The only significance of a 'candle' to these new 'posters' is something they can light their joint with

pass it to the left...come on.

any of youse guys wanna carry my boogie board ?

I'll get the lippie, and you guys work out the moves.

gg

 

[Stormin_Norman]

you sure these guys will take bribes?

look, its worked every other time, its a breeze as long as u give them some oil.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

I'll get the lippie, and you guys work out the moves.

gg

sorry that should have been youze guys get the lippie, swim, turn, smile, toe, breathe, boogie.

gg

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

They've had too much, someone call the paramedics.

We can't have the Synchronised Boogieboard Team all do a lie down at the next Olympics.

gg

 

[chops_a_must]

See this is where ignorance comes into play....and why there are so many misconceptions with the Corby case. At no time was Tom Percy legally engaged to represent Schapelle Corby.

Her legal representatives were:

Lily Sri Rahaya Lubis and Erwin Siregar [Indonesia]
Robin Tampoe [Australia] - no longer practicing law.

Advisor: Vasu Rasiah, a Sri Lankan who had no legal training.

...

among these are assumptions you have made that Tom Percy represented Schapelle when he did not!

Come on now, no need to engage in blatant lying.

Of course he did not represent her in court. But he and Mark Trowel were in her legal defense team in her appeal.

If the family were too stupid, which I expect is a big part of the problem, to act on recommendations or what have you, then that is another problem. But as you and I know, a big part of ones legal apparatus are arranged by family. If they are non-existent, or inherently stupid, then you do get trouble like this.

I think most of the regulars here are tired of this. We have made our minds up. We do not really care for Ms Corby over other more pressing human rights cases. And I personally would like this thread locked. It serves no purpose other than to drag complete strangers onto this site, who are doing nothing other than demonstrating obsessive love and unhealthy slagging of long time members of this site.

I am all for talking about other more pressing human rights issues. But this is all over. GET THE **** OVER IT!!!

 

[Stormin_Norman]

just lay down with a packet of chips and a monty python movie. youll be ok.

 

[varekai]

Varekei, tell me this when you get offered grass in Bali, why do they call in Aussie gold.??
AS for the drugs, it was her bag, she said it was her bag, now she has 16 years to think as to why she did it. Varekei, why have you changed your nick??

Hey "pilots", hand over the controls to the co- pilot..and put the radar on pal, because you're headed for a crash landing!!
So the stolen motorbike that's found in your driveway...you stole it, didn't you??.. No one else could have possibly put it there??
And I'll change what I like , when I like... Stiff ****!
This is my first time on this site anyway, and I wouldn't be here today if the media circus hadn't been involved in the first place with this fiasco...and you don't need to be a third rate "$$$ in the eyes" mobile phone salesman to know it!
And if ever you are called up for jury duty at some time, decline the offer please...because it's obvious that you can't think fairly and reason rationally!