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Hanson to run again

It's Snake Pliskin said:
A totally prejudiced remark.

Investigate the conspiracy and you'll wet your pants at the details.

I agree Snake. The big parties (Labor and Liberal) used every trick and even got a judge to put her in jail due to basically forms being put in late. Though I don't agree with her views, however their should be a place in democracy for all views. She is an Aussie battler and many people know the way she was treated, thats why she is popular.
 
Whatever has been said before, the fact that this women can run in a popular election and get even one vote is a blight on our society. She, and all her followers, are diluting the gene pool so that one day we will be nothing more than sheep. The human race, it seems, is heading towards a period or survivial of the unfittest, and Pauline will be it's popular leader.
 
kennas said:
Whatever has been said before, the fact that this women can run in a popular election and get even one vote is a blight on our society. She, and all her followers, are diluting the gene pool so that one day we will be nothing more than sheep. The human race, it seems, is heading towards a period or survivial of the unfittest, and Pauline will be it's popular leader.
Kennas....I agree with you 100%....Pauline Hanson missed out in the brains department...no wonder Australia will go down the gurgler if you should get people like her in Goverment...The Kiwis got Mrs Clark...with heaps of brains and big balls...Pauline Hanson has got neither and I doubt she knows how to make fish and chips...as for the TV to even give her time just goes to show that there are a lot of sheep around...after all she is a racist...and in todays world they have no place. in public life...we must all get along in the 21st century.....Aussie battler...my foot....she drives a 6 cylinder car new one at that...no Aussie battler can afford that...
 
chicken said:
Kennas....I agree with you 100%....Pauline Hanson missed out in the brains department...no wonder Australia will go down the gurgler if you should get people like her in Goverment...The Kiwis got Mrs Clark...with heaps of brains and big balls...Pauline Hanson has got neither and I doubt she knows how to make fish and chips...as for the TV to even give her time just goes to show that there are a lot of sheep around...after all she is a racist...and in todays world they have no place. in public life...we must all get along in the 21st century.....Aussie battler...my foot....she drives a 6 cylinder car new one at that...no Aussie battler can afford that...
Not to mention that the Oxley-moron has also got a book coming out ($$) and will pocket a couple of hundred grand form electoral funding if, god forbid, she manages 4% of the vote. The best hope - she goes for House of Reps seat instead of the senate. Then we will have heard the last of this abhorent woman until the next election
 
It's Snake Pliskin said:
When African countries have half the population with AIDS it should be of concern to you and anyone living on this planet. To take a different perspective on things it is arrogant to think only white people are racist: quite the contrary. Mugabe? Ring any bells? But that might be ok because the arrogant PC people think the whites can handle anything, because they are white. Sense the ironic racism by PC's?
The problem with some people is that they are not bright enough to understand what they are really saying.
Hanson got the racist tag early on because she reckoned aboriginals were getting a better deal than white people because they could get cheap home loans.
She never knew what proportion of the aboriginal population was able to take up this option.
Nor did she know the extent of aboriginal home ownership per se.
Hanson wanted everyone to be treated "equally".
That should have implied Hanson wanted aboriginal home ownership to equate with that for non-aboriginals: A difficult concept to grasp if you don't understand the true nature of the initial problem.
Scour Hanson's many speeches and statements and learn what she had in place to ensure this concept of "equality" she espoused so often was going to be achieved; and we find ...... hmmm..... nothing.
Do unthinking people of the world have some view that "equality" is something you can actually "get", because it is being offered?
Or because we have a system that should treat everyone equally, even if we don't?
In Hanson a proportion of the population got what they deserved at a time racism was more rampant.
We are generally better informed these days, but that won't stop people believing a load of dribble if that's what they prefer to believe.
 
kennas said:
...one day we will be nothing more than sheep.

We always have been sheep. One need look no further than the concept of "social proof" to realise that.

There are very few eagles amongst us.

"The gu'mint should do something about that!!" :rolleyes:
 
wayneL said:
We always have been sheep. One need look no further than the concept of "social proof" to realise that.

There are very few eagles amongst us.

"The gu'mint should do something about that!!" :rolleyes:
I think at one point we developed to be superior with the use of the intellect, and because we have thumbs. :) However, since that decisive moment (that probably took a million years, we have been slowly crumbling. Natural Selection is dead in the human species. The unfittest are multiplying at astonishing speeds, even with AIDS and Malaria trying as hard as it might to curb the plague. Meanwhile, the fittest have stopped multiplying and are giving their wealth to churches to keep the unfittest alive....go figure.
 
kennas said:
I think at one point we developed to be superior with the use of the intellect, and because we have thumbs. :) However, since that decisive moment (that probably took a million years, we have been slowly crumbling. Natural Selection is dead in the human species. The unfittest are multiplying at astonishing speeds, even with AIDS and Malaria trying as hard as it might to curb the plague. Meanwhile, the fittest have stopped multiplying and are giving their wealth to churches to keep the unfittest alive....go figure.

I suppose it depends on what you define as the "fittest" (or unfittest). Those who have adapted best to the modern welfare state are the ones ensuring the survival of "their" species, no?

As an aside, apparently even the Neanderthals tended to their disabled. Perhaps belief in Darwinian evolution and natural selection is also due to social proof.

Just conjecturing.
 
wayneL said:
I suppose it depends on what you define as the "fittest" (or unfittest). Those who have adapted best to the modern welfare state are the ones ensuring the survival of "their" species, no?

As an aside, apparently even the Neanderthals tended to their disabled. Perhaps belief in Darwinian evolution and natural selection is also due to social proof.

Just conjecturing.
Yeah, there's a lot involved in this and each side has an argument. Your point is based on evolutionary biology where the human species (and some others) have been required to grow in vast numbers to survive in a hostile environment. (this is also the basis of why males want to procreate with anything that moves, and why females want a provider or someone with the appropriate genes - this paradigm is shifting slightly). This has led us to develop the family group, clans, to countries, to alliances, all in the name of survival. Perhaps that is why what I have labelled as the 'unfittest' are surviving. Becasue they have seen the need to procreate in vast numbers because they are being wiped out by disease, illness, and war..........another thread. :)
 
From ABC, December 8, 2006


Public 'not interested' in Hanson's views


Prime Minister John Howard does not believe Pauline Hanson will get re-elected to Federal Parliament because he says the public is not interested in what she is saying.
The former One Nation leader says she will contest the next election, but has given no indication of which electorate she will be standing in or whether she intends to run for the Senate or Lower House.
Mr Howard says there is no place in Australia for targeting those because of their race or religion and people are not interested in Ms Hanson's views.

"I don't think people are interested in what she is saying now," he said.
"But I don't think it really helps to target people by reference to their race or religion - I'd like to believe we treat people according to how they behave."


From Wikipedia...
The White Australia Policy continues to be mentioned in modern contexts, although few politicians ever mention the policy, except when denouncing their opposition. John Howard argued for restricting immigration in 1988, later admitting that his comments cost him his job at the time:

In 1988, Howard's position was weakened by controversy following a speech in which he claimed that the rate of Asian immigration into Australia was too high.

I'm not in favour of going back to a White Australia policy. I do believe that if it is -- in the eyes of some in the community -- that it's too great, it would be in our immediate-term interest and supporting of social cohesion if it [immigration] were slowed down a little, so the capacity of the community to absorb it was greater……..


Survival of the fittest, or maybe survival of the most adaptable???
 
Kauri said:
From ABC, December 8, 2006

From Wikipedia...


Survival of the fittest, or maybe survival of the most adaptable???
I think his comments are related to the survival of the fittest concept Kauri. 'adaptable' and 'fittest' are almost synonyms in terms of natural selection. I think.

Ultimately, he was just trying to keep his job. To survive.
 
kennas said:
I think his comments are related to the survival of the fittest concept Kauri. 'adaptable' and 'fittest' are almost synonyms in terms of natural selection. I think.

Ultimately, he was just trying to keep his job. To survive.

Please explain???? :confused:
 
Kauri said:
Please explain???? :confused:
Sorry, I was in the middle of talking to Wayne about why the unfittest are tending to survive when he proposed that ultimately, the unfittest (my definition of such) were actually doing what they needed to do to survive, and therefore were not actually the unfittest, because they might survive what I called the 'fittest' of the population (probably me and you under my definition).

Little Johnny was just trying to survive, as we all are to various degrees, when he made those comments, and Pauline is doing just the same under different terms.

Everything can be related back to the organism trying to survive.
 
wayneL said:
Hypocrisy is an indispensable survival technique in politics! :D

The Right Honourable John Howard (federal treasurer in 1982 under Fraser when interest rates peaked at 22%) a hypocrite... surely not... :D

Little Johnny was just trying to survive, as we all are to various degrees, when he made those comments, and Pauline is doing just the same under different terms.

Everything can be related back to the organism trying to survive.

Maybe Pauline Hanson is one of those rare political beasts, one who says what they actually believe, no matter how popular/unpopular it is. If that is survival, I far prefer that than popularist bigotry.
 
Kauri said:
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Maybe Pauline Hanson is one of those rare political beasts, one who says what they actually believe, no matter how popular/unpopular it is. If that is survival, I far prefer that than popularist bigotry.
No, I don't think it is survival. Ultimately, she will be caste aside as JH suggested. We aren't full of enough sheep at the moment for her to survivie too long, and people in power are in a position to manipulate the minds of the masses. It's when the masses get too large, and some anomalous, rogue humans spring up who want to save the masses, (like some religious leaders - although they too can be just explained away by evolutionary biology) that the sheep will ultimately take control of the world.

I think we have come close to this situation in the US with G dubya B, but that is more like Fascism now that simple stupidity.
 
Would love to continue this but I have a date with a bottle of red. Catch ya.
 
There was a classic article on Pauline this morning in the Fin. She was apparantly interviewed recently about her desire to re-enter politics and was asked a whole range of questions and of course they picked on her natural weaknesess: common sence and intelligence. Apparantly, her stand in regard to letting Muslims into the country is that they should be 'Christian Muslims' and they should not follow the Koran....HA!!! :D There were more gems in there. Anyone else read it?
 
There was a classic article on Pauline this morning in the Fin. She was apparantly interviewed recently about her desire to re-enter politics and was asked a whole range of questions and of course they picked on her natural weaknesess: common sence and intelligence. Apparantly, her stand in regard to letting Muslims into the country is that they should be 'Christian Muslims' and they should not follow the Koran....HA!!! :D There were more gems in there. Anyone else read it?
Hilarious!

But the Libs need Pauline around to give them ideas. :D :2twocents
 
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