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Do you think Australia is actually cooked at this point
It's starting to feel very much like ~1990 to me and some very similar things happening.

At a state government level Victoria lead the rush into the abyss back then with Tasmania following. Same's happening now in the same order.

SA doesn't have a bank to go bust this time, but it does have an economically important steelworks in a very precarious position. Not the same scenario but it sure does rhyme.

A string of well known businesses (shops etc) went under back then and same happening now.

I'm paying more attention now than I was back then but it does have a similar overall feel to it. All that's missing is someone big to go bust - thus far we haven't got a Bond or Skase equivalent although I do have suspicions about one particular businessperson (I'll avoid names for legal reasons etc).

For those unfamiliar, it's a bit hard to comprehend just how well known Skase in particular became after the event. Even children were aware of him, it entered popular culture in a way that's hard to fully appreciate if you weren't there at the time.

That plus we haven't had any politicians singing or deadly consumer product scandals come to light yet, at least not to my knowledge. :2twocents
 
It's starting to feel very much like ~1990 to me and some very similar things happening.

At a state government level Victoria lead the rush into the abyss back then with Tasmania following. Same's happening now in the same order.

SA doesn't have a bank to go bust this time, but it does have an economically important steelworks in a very precarious position. Not the same scenario but it sure does rhyme.

A string of well known businesses (shops etc) went under back then and same happening now.

I'm paying more attention now than I was back then but it does have a similar overall feel to it. All that's missing is someone big to go bust - thus far we haven't got a Bond or Skase equivalent although I do have suspicions about one particular businessperson (I'll avoid names for legal reasons etc).

For those unfamiliar, it's a bit hard to comprehend just how well known Skase in particular became after the event. Even children were aware of him, it entered popular culture in a way that's hard to fully appreciate if you weren't there at the time.

That plus we haven't had any politicians singing or deadly consumer product scandals come to light yet, at least not to my knowledge. :2twocents
The similarities are definitely there, a lot of green can dreaming, a lot of people gearing up, a lot of it depending on Government money.

This time it is housing, more so than shares, but the only growth industry is government and that money comes from those who need it to support the bubble. :rolleyes:

The Hydrogen dream appears to have burst, the made in Australia hasn't eventuated, so when the Federal and State government subsidies get used up, those projects may well be put back on the shelf.

Lithium is in the toilet, nickel has already been flushed and coal is waiting for its turn, things will need to turn around soon or the government will really have to tighten the belt.;)
 
Do you think Australia is actually cooked at this point and government is just hiding it. I'm seeing huge failings out there at the moment.
am not sure about ( completely, absolutely ) cooked but dancing around on a HOT tin roof , there are plenty of signs , local improvements ( residential and property development ) are stalled , businesses in the main town ( about 12,000 people ) up here closing , renovating , etc .. sure one of them is the Rivers store but they are not unique , just very obvious about the closing down ( the auto electrician is gone several very old businesses and there is at least one vacant pub ( maybe three )

and Brisbane wasn't looking so vibrant when i visited late 2024

hiding it .. that is what Governments do especially in election years
 
I'm a little worried albo was dancing around at Mardi gras while the Chinese did a lap round the country with no push back. We are very open to invasion. Hopefully the politicians are the first to go.
we have always been very open to invasion , the Japanese looked us over before WW2 but decided India/Bangladesh and food was more important , and Indonesia has a fragmented society , China knew we were here for maybe 2000 years ( or more ) but couldn't find anything to trade with over here
 
I went to Bunnings last night, the place was like a ghost town, lucky if there were a dozen cars in the carpark.

My niece is in her third year as a hairdresser apprentice, last night she said that for the first time she does not have a client booking for two weeks. The business has multiple stores and has noted a decline in the more expensive services that they offer.

The South African owners of Country Road Group have tagged Australia as being in the grips of a ‘retail recession’ for the last 18 months, amid crashing sales for the retailer.

The South African owners of troubled fashion house Country Road Group have warned Australia has been mired in a ‘retail recession’ for the last 18 months, but that its business was “absolutely fixable” despite barely being profitable and crashing sales in January.

In an update to shareholders, it was revealed that Country Road Group’s sales collapse had worsened since Christmas, down 7.8 per cent in the 26 weeks to December 29, but accelerating to a sales slump of nearly 16 per cent for the first eight weeks of 2025.

Woolworths Holdings chief executive Roy Bagattini has also conceded that the sale of up-market department store chain David Jones led to higher than expected costs now borne by its sole business in Australia, Country Road Group, with the company pushing through a company-wide restructure to slim its cost base.

Mr Bagattini, addressing analysts and investors overnight from Cape Town, revealed the restructure had touched 80 per cent of roles outside of Country Road Group’s stores and that despite Country Road Group barely profitable and facing diving sales it was “absolutely fixable”.

Country Road’s expansion into new home categories such as candles and scent was proving successful, and the repositioning of its clothing business Trenery was driving strong growth.

He also downplayed suggestions from analysts that it would sell Country Road Group, saying it had been a significant profit contributor to the company in the past and one poor year did not mean it couldn’t perform again and return to better margins.

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Country Road’s flagship store is Sydney's CBD. Picture: Britta Campion

But this restructure and long-awaited revival of Country Road Group – whose brands also include Witchery, Mimco and Politix across more than 650 stores – was coming as Australia also faced a protracted ‘retail recession’.

Woolworths Holdings finance director Zaid Manjra reported that Australia has been in a “retail recession” for the last 18 months, with real GDP growth at 32 year lows and persistent inflation and high interest rates dampening consumer sentiment. His presentation explained that around 700 business in the Australian retail sector had filed for bankruptcy in 2024, up 55 per cent.

“A number of businesses including well known brands have been placed into administration or have filed for bankruptcy, of course our business to has been impacted by these market dynamics,” Mr Manjra said.

This showed up in Country Road Group’s interim results with earnings down nearly 72 per cent to $14.2m but adjusted profit before tax sinking 94 per cent to a wafer thin $2.5m.

Mr Bagattini explained that following the sale of David Jones, its Country Road Group was left with “inefficient structures and processes and significantly elevated costs”.

“This business is in the midst of a restructure, a complete overhaul in fact,” Mr Bagattini added, “to reconfigure its operating model and reset its structural economics as a stand-alone business.”

He said this restructure of Country Road Group was being accelerated and has seen four out of five roles outside its stores changed to better prepare the fashion house to perform amid tougher trading conditions and extra costs triggered by the separation from David Jones.

“This is absolutely fixable,” he told analysts as he detailed the restructure process.

“It is an unprecedented degree of change, and in fact the most change this business has experienced in its history. To give you a sense of the sheer extent of it, over 80 per cent of all roles outside of stores have been impacted in some shape or form, whether they have been streamlined and rationalised or whether they are changing scope or whether they are newly created as we invest in new capabilities.”

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Country Road Group is being restructured amid a ‘retail recession’ in Australia and is carrying the extra costs of its separation from David Jones. Picture: Andrew Henshaw

Mr Bagattini said the restructure was pushed through in “record time frame” and amid a tough trading environment, which has worsened its recent financial performance.

He said Country Road Group still had good potential.

“It means we are well on track to complete Country Road Group’s restructuring before the end of the financial year, it means Country Road Group enters fiscal 2026 well set up to begin delivering to its true potential.”

This would also see Country Road Group meeting its earnings margin target of 10 per cent, but to return to its previous target of 12 per cent would require an improving Australian economy.

Country Road Group’s house of brands would work harder driving a greater clarity and distinction between each brand, with Country Road’s push into home categories working well and the reset and repositioning of Trenery was delivering growth.

When asked by analysts if Country Road Group still had a future within Woolworths Holdings, Mr Bagattini said it was not up for sale at this time.

“The question around selling an asset or selling Country Road Group in this case naturally does come when a business underperforms. It is important to remember that Country Road Group has been a significant profit contributor to our group for many years, and a bad year doesn’t detract from the long term potential we see in this business.”

Last year, Country Road Group was plunged into a workplace bullying and sexual harassment scandal that punctured staff morale and generated negative publicity for the brands. It has lost a number of senior executives, including the highly respected boss of the Country Road label, Elle Roseby, who later quit the retailer.
 
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