Very nice Rain here today

[farmerge]

I came home for lunch today after being on the loader clearing a fence line. The sky to the North West was almost purple/black with a severe weather alert and severe thunderstorms forecast for an area a bit north of us.
Some areas got over 100mm in a very short period of time. Us well we get sweet f***all.
That amount of rain would have been devastating on the dry and dusty paddocks.

 

[frugal.rock]

NSW coast has been copping it lately.
Media yesterday presented a drastic situation today, which appears to be over sensationalized, again.

 

[SirRumpole]

Thought I was in for a deluge near Orange, but the cloud mass essentially split in two to the NW, part going south, the other east, leaving us mainly unaffected except for some drizzle.

 

[Dona Ferentes]

Just some lovely rain here, all day.

Don't you just love days like this?

Townsville flooding: ‘500mm+ of rain to come’ amid swiftwater rescues, evacuation warnings​

The disaster management group is calling for some suburbs to evacuate after higher than expected rainfall. LATEST ??

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Townsville flooding: ‘500mm+ of rain to come’ amid swiftwater rescues, evacuation warnings​

The disaster management group is calling for some suburbs to evacuate after higher than expected rainfall. LATEST ??

The problem is that we have a dam about 5-10k inland which flows in to the Ross River. when it rains it fills quickly and water has to be released which flows down and backs up in to already water-logged suburbs.

They ( not me, those anonymous "they" ) have released water from it in the past and this has led to subsequent water restrictions when the rain didn't come. There are plans to increase the size of the dam which should hav been done years ago when it would have cost less than 10% of what it would cost now.

On top of the flooding we often get high tides affecting coastal suburbs which aggravates the flooding for those communities. We are fine where we are luckily.

gg

 

[farmerge]

Townsville flooding: ‘500mm+ of rain to come’ amid swiftwater rescues, evacuation warnings​

The disaster management group is calling for some suburbs to evacuate after higher than expected rainfall. LATEST ??

That's about our yearly average in recent times.

 

[Smurf1976]

That's about our yearly average in recent times.

12 months to the end of January in Adelaide the official rainfall was 289.6mm.

Of that 83.8mm was recorded during June and a further 19.4mm was recorded on a single day in August. Take those out and there's been stuff all.

If anyone spots green grass anywhere around Adelaide, either it's fake or it's being watered.

Present water storage is 44% versus 65% same time last year.

So if the good people of north Queensland would like to share some of their rain then that would be to mutual advantage. Less flooding up there, less parched down here.

 

[farmerge]

12 months to the end of January in Adelaide the official rainfall was 289.6mm.

Of that 83.8mm was recorded during June and a further 19.4mm was recorded on a single day in August. Take those out and there's been stuff all.

If anyone spots green grass anywhere around Adelaide, either it's fake or it's being watered.

Present water storage is 44% versus 65% same time last year.

So if the good people of north Queensland would like to share some of their rain then that would be to mutual advantage. Less flooding up there, less parched down here.

It's a real shame that the flood waters of the North of Australia can't be utilised and somehow piped to the South of the Country.
The country as a whole could be entirely drought proofed. Just need politicians along with the relevant experts to come to some understanding of how it could be achieved.

 

[sptrawler]

It's a real shame that the flood waters of the North of Australia can't be utilised and somehow piped to the South of the Country.
The country as a whole could be entirely drought proofed. Just need politicians along with the relevant experts to come to some understanding of how it could be achieved.

That was suggested in 2008 and the media ridiculed it, which ended up with the person getting thrown out, as usually happens when the media start a hate vendetta. Lol
Fortunately the silent majority are getting fed up with it.

Barnett's water pipeline theory mocked

WA Premier Colin Barnett's theory that water would flow from the Kimberley to Perth across flat land has been branded ill-informed and romantic.

www.smh.com.au

Combine that idea with the Browse basin gas processing plant at Broome and not only does the Eastern States get gas, but gas could be used to pump water South and irrigate along the way.
Ah but the smug media don't have to wear the resultant mess, is there any wonder why there is a huge swing right ?
It's just a shame the media can't reflect on their failings, maybe then they wouldn't be in the mess they are with falling patronage.

 

[farmerge]

That was suggested in 2008 and the media ridiculed it, which ended up with the person getting thrown out, as usually happens when the media start a hate vendetta. Lol
Fortunately the silent majority are getting fed up with it.

Barnett's water pipeline theory mocked

WA Premier Colin Barnett's theory that water would flow from the Kimberley to Perth across flat land has been branded ill-informed and romantic.

www.smh.com.au

Combine that idea with the Browse basin gas processing plant at Broome and not only does the Eastern States get gas, but gas could be used to pump water South and irrigate along the way.
Ah but the smug media don't have to wear the resultant mess, is there any wonder why there is a huge swing right ?
It's just a shame the media can't reflect on their failings, maybe then they wouldn't be in the mess they are with falling patronage.

@sptrawler Yeah Colin's Canal didn't win to many votes but when that man of foresight, former MHR, The Honorable Mr. Ernie Bridge, suggested piping the water south, even he couldn't get the idea past just that.
Get the water to Kalgoorlie and just reverse the pumping stations to Mundaring and then all the water catchment dams would always be overflowing.
I guess one day reason and common sense will prevail and the massive amount of water that flows out to the sea from the mighty rivers in the North West each year will be harnessed

 

[IFocus]

That was suggested in 2008 and the media ridiculed it, which ended up with the person getting thrown out, as usually happens when the media start a hate vendetta. Lol
Fortunately the silent majority are getting fed up with it.

Barnett's water pipeline theory mocked

WA Premier Colin Barnett's theory that water would flow from the Kimberley to Perth across flat land has been branded ill-informed and romantic.

www.smh.com.au

Combine that idea with the Browse basin gas processing plant at Broome and not only does the Eastern States get gas, but gas could be used to pump water South and irrigate along the way.
Ah but the smug media don't have to wear the resultant mess, is there any wonder why there is a huge swing right ?
It's just a shame the media can't reflect on their failings, maybe then they wouldn't be in the mess they are with falling patronage.

Haven't we debunked this before?

Isn't energy to pump water 1000's of Kms is way higher than decel?

As for irrigation surely there is still room in the Kimberly's for further expansion?

 

[Dona Ferentes]

The problem is that we have a dam about 5-10k inland which flows in to the Ross River. when it rains it fills quickly and water has to be released which flows down and backs up in to already water-logged suburbs.

They ( not me, those anonymous "they" ) have released water from it in the past and this has led to subsequent water restrictions when the rain didn't come. There are plans to increase the size of the dam which should hav been done years ago when it would have cost less than 10% of what it would cost now.

On top of the flooding we often get high tides affecting coastal suburbs which aggravates the flooding for those communities. We are fine where we are luckily.

gg

no respite, up your way, gg.. From a hour ago, and the radar looks very soggy

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

no respite, up your way, gg.. From a hour ago, and the radar looks very soggy

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It is getting quite serious. One of my sons and his family are in that "black zone" and although he feels they'll be ok, they have moved out.

I am increasingly of the belief to just follow orders and look back at the wisdom of those orders later.

I thought we'd have no rain after midday today which was predicted, but the BOM now reckon it will increase and be around until Tuesday. It is pissing down at the moment with intermittent gale winds.

Many creeks reaching all time highs.

gg

 

[farmerge]

It is getting quite serious. One of my sons and his family are in that "black zone" and although he feels they'll be ok, they have moved out.

I am increasingly of the belief to just follow orders and look back at the wisdom of those orders later.

I thought we'd have no rain after midday today which was predicted, but the BOM now reckon it will increase and be around until Tuesday. It is pissing down at the moment with intermittent gale winds.

Many creeks reaching all time highs.

gg

@Garpal Gumnut Feeling for you gg.
But any rain generally is good, not by the foot in 24 hours though.

 

[farmerge]

Haven't we debunked this before?

Isn't energy to pump water 1000's of Kms is way higher than decel?

As for irrigation surely there is still room in the Kimberly's for further expansion?

@IFocus The grey matter at times stumbles along, but I seem to remember that when Ernie as talking piping the water from the North-West, it was on a downward slope with limited pumping stations involved.
As usual with most good ideas they get canned or shelved or put on the back burner when the Liberals come to power.

 

[sptrawler]

Haven't we debunked this before?

Isn't energy to pump water 1000's of Kms is way higher than decel?

As for irrigation surely there is still room in the Kimberly's for further expansion?

With diesel it was way too expensive, it was only feasible if they could use gas, but that went by the wayside when Broome was canned.

I don't think it will ever happen now, unless the Chinese got involved with leasing farmland up that way, as happened with Camballin and the yanks.
Sometime long in the future I think the Fitzroy will get a dam like Argyle, but a lot of water has to go under the bridge so to speak, before that will happen.
Feeding the World will become a big issue and the North is the obvious spot.
With desal, it is great but it is hugely power hungry and if the SW keeps getting dryer, desal wont be able to produce enough I wouldn't think, plus our SW farming water supplies will have to be sorted and again that points North. Either to move the farming, or sourcing the water from there.
As with everything we will adapt.
It's a bit like the suggested gas pipeline from the Kimberly to the Moomba gas fields, it was said to be too expensive at $6B now we are giving Rio $2B to convert their aluminium smelters to run on renewables, I guess it is all about who suggests it.
Times change, priorities change and technologies change, so who knows where it will all be in 30 years time.

 

[rcw1]

tragic death reported in Ingham, SES flood boat hit debris or a tree overturned. A body was found. Awful.

 

[farmerge]

tragic death reported in Ingham, SES flood boat hit debris or a tree overturned. A body was found. Awful.

@rcw1 Never pleasant when there is a death or more in dire circumstances such is happening in FNQ.

 

[rcw1]

@rcw1 Never pleasant when there is a death or more in dire circumstances such is happening in FNQ.

@farmerge , not flash state of affairs... monsoon season is rain for the north... our dams and everything else... just cannot tell it to stop or for that matter to rain in certain areas.. for x amount of time. Gotta take the good with the bad. But shes looking very bleak for some of our communities... they are resilient, northerners, farnortherners we will move on from this like we always do. Just sad, people are hurting and then now this... It ain't over yet.


Kind regards
rcw1

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

It eased off in the last 30mins and a small amount of sun is peeking through. More rain is predicted with a high probability.

gg