Australian Federal Election - 2022

[SirRumpole]

This sort of thing is no different to the Labour Party claiming that the Liberals will privatise Medicare, vis a vis the "Mediscare" campaign.

The Libs are moving that way by removing some procedures from the Medicare list.

To be fair they are also putting more drugs on the Medicare list.

The Anti Labor van is a great example of fake news. If it turns out to be a Liberal exercise then people should be named and shamed and forced to remove it.

I've not heard Albanese making any pro China comments in areas that matter , has anyone else ?

 

[moXJO]

The Libs are moving that way by removing some procedures from the Medicare list.

To be fair they are also putting more drugs on the Medicare list.

The Anti Labor van is a great example of fake news. If it turns out to be a Liberal exercise then people should be named and shamed and forced to remove it.

I've not heard Albanese making any pro China comments in areas that matter , has anyone else ?

Yeah he made some pro China remarks (I think recently). Was also endorsed by "global times" or something.
I didn't double check any of that. Just remember skimming past articles.

 

[wayneL]

I've not heard Albanese making any pro China comments in areas that matter , has anyone else ?

FWIW

It is a conversation worth having, whether Australia remains in the five eyes (whose countries are all obviously going down the **** chute), or China, though it has its own problems is clearly in the ascendancy.

From my own point of view, I really distrust the CCP, but I'm really fond of the mainland Chinese people that I know.

It's kind of like almost every other country vs their people.

Confusing.

 

[wayneL]

Thou shalt not ask awkward questions, you miserable Prole:

 

[SirRumpole]

Thou shalt not ask awkward questions, you miserable Prole:

I saw that. The guy may have just been a concerned citizen or a Liberal stooge out to crash Albo's day.

I think any politician would have done the same.

 

[wayneL]

I saw that. The guy may have just been a concerned citizen or a Liberal stooge out to crash Albo's day.

I think any politician would have done the same.

IOW only answer softball questions?

"C'mon Man"

Scotty (and to be clear I don't support at all) gets the verbal knuckle in the questions he is asked, yet Albo is sheltered?

Give me a break, that is bulshit.

 

[moXJO]

I saw that. The guy may have just been a concerned citizen or a Liberal stooge out to crash Albo's day.

I think any politician would have done the same.

Not a good look. Albo obviously can't think on his feet either. Given how sheltered Labor has been leading up to this. Not to mention their total shutdown of questions they don't want to answer. Well they look like a pack of useless, sneaky prcks.

They must be one implosion away from losing the election and they know it. Playing it safe as the obviously don't have much else.

This isn't an endorsement of libs either. I don't even know what those dills are doing.

 

[moXJO]

IOW only answer softball questions?

"C'mon Man"

Scotty (and to be clear I don't support at all) gets the verbal knuckle in the questions he is asked, yet Albo is sheltered?

Give me a break, that is bulshit.

Albo getting the "Biden" treatment.

 

[SirRumpole]

IOW only answer softball questions?

"C'mon Man"

Scotty (and to be clear I don't support at all) gets the verbal knuckle in the questions he is asked, yet Albo is sheltered?

Give me a break, that is bulshit.

The journalistic rabble is bad enough, but all politician's advisors will shelter them from hecklers. Just watch Morrison cut short press conferences when the questions get tough.

 

[IFocus]

Albo getting the "Biden" treatment.

Nah quite the opposite news site cross for the live speak from Morrison and ministers in full and Albanese gets barely 10 secs, gets repeated time and again.

Good for Labor as the Coalition just keeps either hanging itself or infighting settling old scores.

 

[moXJO]

Nah quite the opposite news site cross for the live speak from Morrison and ministers in full and Albanese gets barely 10 secs, gets repeated time and again.

Good for Labor as the Coalition just keeps either hanging itself or infighting settling old scores.

Albanese would only want ten seconds. If you work to a woke platform, any longer and you are bound to offend someone.

Everyone hates scomo so he's just going to run his mouth and lose the election.

 

[moXJO]

So... Is this Satire ? Political comment? Poisonous Lying xhit ? Another United Australia ploy ?

It's from "advance Australia" apparently. I thought it was the libs for a second.

 

[moXJO]

That's why Labor front bench is so quiet, they were issued with a gag order from his Supremeness.

https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/leaked-labor-party-campaign-memo-exposes-strict-rules-for-anthony-albanese-campaign/news-story/12727ed40e6be67e6930f19f95fbada5

 

[SirRumpole]

Thou shalt not ask awkward questions, you miserable Prole:

Told you so...

Scott Morrison confronted by angry pensioner while campaigning at Newcastle area pub

Prime Minister Scott Morrison is accused of failing to support older Australians manage the rising cost of living during an unannounced visit to a Newcastle pub.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Smurf1976]

The basic problem with politics is that it has become nothing more than a pile of manure and that's being polite.

Whilst I'm aware the thread's about the Australian federal election, this one from the US sums up my thoughts really:

"At a time of record profits, Big Oil is refusing to increase production to provide the American people some much needed relief at the gas pump," said Rep. Frank Pallone, a Democrat from New Jersey.

Oil bosses vow to boost output and deny profiteering

Energy bosses warn there is "no quick fix" to the higher energy costs hitting households.

www.bbc.com

Emphasis mine.

Now this would be the same Democrat party that just months ago was responsible for:

The Keystone XL pipeline's developer has halted all construction on the project months after its permit was revoked by the Biden administration.

Keystone XL pipeline halted after Biden blocks permit

The Canadian developer says it will dismantle their equipment and "ensure a safe termination".

www.bbc.com

Now that's from the US but sums up my thoughts on politics in general pretty damn well really.

Step 1 = Create the problem.

Step 2 = Blame someone else for the problem you created.

Step 3 = Try and claim credit for pressuring someone, who opposed you at Step 1, into fixing the problem you created.

Labor, Liberal, Democrat, Republican, Greens, Nationals, One Nation, Palmer, Conservative and anyone else - all cut from the same cloth unfortunately.

Whilst I've used a current US example, largely because my point was non-partisan in the Australian context so I intentionally picked a current foreign example, there are plenty from this country as well which follow the same pattern. The whole thing's akin to an arsonist who goes around lighting fires then tries to claim credit for putting them out.

The whole thing needs reform in my view to hold all sides to account for blunders that in business would see pretty much anyone out of a job.

 

[wayneL]

Told you so...

Scott Morrison confronted by angry pensioner while campaigning at Newcastle area pub

Prime Minister Scott Morrison is accused of failing to support older Australians manage the rising cost of living during an unannounced visit to a Newcastle pub.

www.abc.net.au

Of course, Morrison is a mongrel and would not have expected anything else.

This is why folks shouldn't be voting for either of them.

 

[macca]

Told you so...

Scott Morrison confronted by angry pensioner while campaigning at Newcastle area pub

Prime Minister Scott Morrison is accused of failing to support older Australians manage the rising cost of living during an unannounced visit to a Newcastle pub.

www.abc.net.au

I think Scomo was very polite and spent quite a bit of time with that bloke, he had ample opportunity to let off steam and Scomo was still polite and passed him onto an aide.

I don't consider that "walking away" which implies ignoring someone, I do recall Hawke calling some one a silly old buggar, at least Scomo was polite.

He is on a tour, he can't give more than a few minutes to anybody

The bloke was mainly going crook about the pension, I have a number of friends who live on the pension, they all drive cars, they go out to lunch regularly, they go on holidays every year, not many countries in the world you can do that for free.

My mate says their pension is $40k pa and it costs them $20k to live so life is good.

 

[PZ99]

I think Scomo was very polite and spent quite a bit of time with that bloke, he had ample opportunity to let off steam and Scomo was still polite and passed him onto an aide.

I don't consider that "walking away" which implies ignoring someone, I do recall Hawke calling some one a silly old buggar, at least Scomo was polite.

He is on a tour, he can't give more than a few minutes to anybody

The bloke was mainly going crook about the pension, I have a number of friends who live on the pension, they all drive cars, they go out to lunch regularly, they go on holidays every year, not many countries in the world you can do that for free.

My mate says their pension is $40k pa and it costs them $20k to live so life is good.

Agreed. ScoMo only walked away when the bloke starting swearing at him - he got more time than he deserved IMO

That pension is OK if you're debt free / not paying rent. I know a lot of people who live comfortably on it.

 

[sptrawler]

Agreed. ScoMo only walked away when the bloke starting swearing at him - he got more time than he deserved IMO

That pension is OK if you're debt free / not paying rent. I know a lot of people who live comfortably on it.

It is interesting, Morrison is toast mainly due to the media constant attacks, but that's politics if the media want you out they usually get their way.
The pensioner is interesting, as you say they get a pretty good lifestyle, if they own their house and have a bit of super, that guy worked in the mines for 30 years so he would have some super.
My mate the garbo retired two weeks ago, he has spent that time going through the hoops at Centrelink, but he will get the full single pension and has about $200k in super a brand new car etc.
So he get $26k a year plus all the perks and will draw $20k out of the super, that is more than the wife and I drew from our SMSF last year to live on, people are turning into a weird lot IMO.
There is screaming about how much debt there is from handing out assistance during coved, now it is being drowned out by the screaming of I want more, people just can't be filled up these days IMO.
The next Government is going to have just as much trouble.

 

[moXJO]

It is interesting, Morrison is toast mainly due to the media constant attacks, but that's politics if the media want you out they usually get their way.
The pensioner is interesting, as you say they get a pretty good lifestyle, if they own their house and have a bit of super, that guy worked in the mines for 30 years so he would have some super.
My mate the garbo retired two weeks ago, he has spent that time going through the hoops at Centrelink, but he will get the full single pension and has about $200k in super a brand new car etc.
So he get $26k a year plus all the perks and will draw $20k out of the super, that is more than the wife and I drew from our SMSF last year to live on, people are turning into a weird lot IMO.
There is screaming about how much debt there is from handing out assistance during coved, now it is being drowned out by the screaming of I want more, people just can't be filled up these days IMO.
The next Government is going to have just as much trouble.

Your post about Australians becoming "wingers" in another thread is spot on. People will whinge about anything. A lot centred around selfishness, or political scoring. We get $hit politicians because Australians have become a $hit society of self entitled wants.
Media just amplifies it. Twitter is a trash pile and makes you realise the level of nasty idiots in this country.

Realistically, this government has done a lot right. From streamlined services, responses to emergencies, business regulations. I think there were tweaks to the system that were good.

However there was a huge lack of vision and a breakaway from core principles around rights. Some serious lack of respect for the role of serving the Australian people with a bit of integrity as well. Scomo and libs failed hard in this regard.