Australian Federal Election - 2022

[wayneL]

Morrison is obviously a politician not a leader, and we need less politicians and more leaders.

True.

But I don't think the majority of Australians would recognise an actual true leader if he or she walked up and poked them in the eye.

Mind you there does seem to be a critical lack of true leader material in our country, so Australians have become accustomed to voting for "politicians".

I have a few scoped out that I think have the potential, but they are nowhere near those leadership roles...

... Ironically, because they're not politicians.

Catch 22... We're @#$&ed

 

[SirRumpole]

But I don't think the majority of Australians would recognise an actual true leader if he or she walked up and poked them in the eye.

Probably correct. I'll have a shot though and I'm pretty sure you will vomit when I say that Mark McGowan is the nearest we have.

Do what is best for the community, no bull$hit, tell it like it is, and don't be browbeaten by the PC lot.

No one is going to agree with everything he does, but he decides on a course of action and doesn't move when some people bleat.

 

[wayneL]

Probably correct. I'll have a shot though and I'm pretty sure you will vomit when I say that Mark McGowan is the nearest we have.

Do what is best for the community, no bull$hit, tell it like it is, and don't be browbeaten by the PC lot.

No one is going to agree with everything he does, but he decides on a course of action and doesn't move when some people bleat.

McGowan is blessed in that there is absolutely zero opposition in this state.

He has just extended the emergency powers so is so an actual fact is ruling by decree and propaganda rather than by true leadership.

Out in my circle of influence, people are not happy at all. But once again, there is nobody to take him on.... it's pathetic and depressing.

 

[IFocus]

Probably correct. I'll have a shot though and I'm pretty sure you will vomit when I say that Mark McGowan is the nearest we have.

Do what is best for the community, no bull$hit, tell it like it is, and don't be browbeaten by the PC lot.

No one is going to agree with everything he does, but he decides on a course of action and doesn't move when some people bleat.

Yep makes unpopular decisions but current hospitalization rates here underlie he has made some good ones.

 

[sptrawler]

Yep makes unpopular decisions but current hospitalization rates here underlie he has made some good ones.

To be honest, as long as the right person is in charge, it doesn't matter which party is in office, McGowan and Barnett to a degree prove that.
Once Barnett was gone the Libs folded like a pack of cards, if a political party is fortunate enough to have a few bright ones that's a plus, but IMO not the norm.

 

[PZ99]

FFS, I really hope we aren't going to be saturated with unfunny garbage from the shovel and babylon bee etc for the next 6 weeks

 

[Humid]

FFS, I really hope we aren't going to be saturated with unfunny garbage from the shovel and babylon bee etc for the next 6 weeks

As opposed to reality?

 

[PZ99]

That's even worse - his head's too big

Some time ago there was a polite request from the site owner to keep all the satirical / conspiracy stuff in the conspiracy thread so we didn't have to wade through all that stuff in the other threads.

 

[Humid]

That's even worse - his head's too big

Chinese hammer and sickle got me

 

[Joe Blow]

FFS, I really hope we aren't going to be saturated with unfunny garbage from the shovel and babylon bee etc for the next 6 weeks

I'll be moving any into the political satire thread. In fact, moving forward that is the only thread in which anything from The Shovel, Babylon Bee, The Betoota Advocate and other satire websites like them can be posted.

 

[PZ99]

Chinese hammer and sickle got me

It looks like a paint job on that "debt truck" the Coalition were lumbering around a few years ago.

Betcha it'll be garaged this year

 

[basilio]

I'll be moving any into the political satire thread. In fact, moving forward that is the only thread in which anything from The Shovel, Babylon Bee, The Betoota Advocate and other satire websites like them can be posted.

Fair enough. Your call

Frankly I think the "satirical" comments made on The Shovel about ScoMos relentless lying self promotion amidst the exposure of his poisonous 2007 campaign to destroy his Lebanese opponent Michael Towke were spot on. He has no shame.

I can't quite get quite the right humourous tone so let's leave it at that.

 

[Joe Blow]

Fair enough. Your call

Frankly I think the "satirical" comments made on The Shovel about ScoMos relentless lying self promotion amidst the exposure of his poisonous 2007 campaign to destroy his Lebanese opponent Michael Towke were spot on. He has no shame.

I can't quite get quite the right humourous tone so let's leave it at that.

The point can still be made in the political satire thread. Political threads need to be as fact based as possible, and satirical articles tend to distract from that because of their partisan nature. Satire can be enjoyed, but in its own thread.

 

[wayneL]

What I find pretty disappointing and a bit distressing, is the tendency for the debate to always fall back into the Liebor vs Lieberal binary (with the Nats and Greens being pretty much included in that paradigm)

As we get closer to the election none of any minor parties get any airplay at all and there is no analysis of what they could possibly offer Australia even if only in a "keep the bastards honest" role.

Well apart from the partisan journalists mocking their leadership.

Never mind Clive, or Pauline, or, whomever is getting in the liberal democrats.... What are the platforms of those parties (and others) and what could they offer us given a few seats in the upper house or even the lower house and a possible balance of power?

I already have my primary vote and preferences all mapped out and for specific reasons, having perused each of the party's platform documents... But also observing their behaviour.

I had also contacted the sitting member and each of the candidates I'm interested in in my electorate.

I can tell you that neither the sitting member nor the opposition candidate has even answered my enquiries, we're as my preferred minor party candidate telephoned me the very next day and we had a long and interesting conversation. (Hasluck in case anyone was wondering)

No prizes for guessing who I am putting in the last couple on my ballot paper.

 

[Knobby22]

What I find pretty disappointing and a bit distressing, is the tendency for the debate to always fall back into the Liebor vs Lieberal binary (with the Nats and Greens being pretty much included in that paradigm)

As we get closer to the election none of any minor parties get any airplay at all and there is no analysis of what they could possibly offer Australia even if only in a "keep the bastards honest" role.

Well apart from the partisan journalists mocking their leadership.

Never mind Clive, or Pauline, or, whomever is getting in the liberal democrats.... What are the platforms of those parties (and others) and what could they offer us given a few seats in the upper house or even the lower house and a possible balance of power?

I already have my primary vote and preferences all mapped out and for specific reasons, having perused each of the party's platform documents... But also observing their behaviour.

I had also contacted the sitting member and each of the candidates I'm interested in in my electorate.

I can tell you that neither the sitting member nor the opposition candidate has even answered my enquiries, we're as my preferred minor party candidate telephoned me the very next day and we had a long and interesting conversation. (Hasluck in case anyone was wondering)

No prizes for guessing who I am putting in the last couple on my ballot paper.

You have Ken Wyatt. He seems OK from this distance. I note you only have 6 candidates (jealous).
My electorate has moved and now I have Bill Shorten and 13 other (mostly terrible) candidates!
I have to make my mind on which order I choose between the Socialist Equality Party or the Socialist Alliance (splitters - Monty Python).
According to the last register they both got 0% of the vote. Even their Mum's wouldn't vote for them

 

[basilio]

For the last few months we have had relentless advertising from the United Australia Party essentially trashing all the major parties (bar Nationals) and current political system. The call for "Freedom" .

Tomorrow we will hear from Clive Palmer on Sky News. Will there be a coherant set of policies? We'll see

(Meanwhile they still peddle the lies that their "history"goes back to the leadership of Menzies Lyons and Billy Hughes)

Our Prime Ministers - United Australia Party

www.unitedaustraliaparty.org.au

 

[basilio]

As opposed to reality?
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So... Is this Satire ? Political comment? Poisonous Lying xhit ? Another United Australia ploy ?

 

[Joe Blow]

So... Is this Satire ? Political comment? Poisonous Lying xhit ? Another United Australia ploy ?

It appears to be electoral campaigning. No idea who has financed the mobile billboard. Feel free to discuss the substance or otherwise of the insinuation being made.

 

[wayneL]

You have Ken Wyatt. He seems OK from this distance. I note you only have 6 candidates (jealous).
My electorate has moved and now I have Bill Shorten and 13 other (mostly terrible) candidates!
I have to make my mind on which order I choose between the Socialist Equality Party or the Socialist Alliance (splitters - Monty Python).
According to the last register they both got 0% of the vote. Even their Mum's wouldn't vote for them

Ken seems pretty preoccupied with his ministerial portfolio, Hence has so far declined to answer my emails to his office (happy to copy to your p.m. if you are interested in what I had to say).

Fair enough, I do understand ministerial responsibilities. However he is purportedly still our local representative and could at least have one of his apparatchiks to answer with some crappy form letter.

So far... Nuttin'.

 

[wayneL]

It appears to be electoral campaigning. No idea who has financed the mobile billboard. Feel free to discuss the substance or otherwise of the insinuation being made.

FWIW

This sort of thing is no different to the Labour Party claiming that the Liberals will privatise Medicare, vis a vis the "Mediscare" campaign.

I personally don't like this sort of thing from either major party, unless there is some sort of bona fides attached, but it does seem to be par for the course unfortunately.

Mind you there is somewhat of a connection because of Victorian Labor party's embracing of the belt and road initiative.

I just wish all of the parties could be absolutely fair dinkum (Hah!)