The ScoMo Government

[mullokintyre]

Comparing as % to GDP/capita (in US$) year on year reveals some truths about personal income tax

Why would you compare Australian Taxation figures per capita in USD?
Seems rather meaningless.
Mick

 

[Tisme]

Why would you compare Australian Taxation figures per capita in USD?
Seems rather meaningless

Because US$ is the metric of value on a global economy. It's a measure of your ability to buy goods and services provided in that sphere. On the shares front your purchasing power of foreign equity is diminished by the domestic tax take.

 

[Smurf1976]

Trouble is, what replaces him is no less depressing and comes with just as much baggage.

That's the consequence of selecting leaders on personality rather than ability.

I mean seriously, I couldn't give a damn if the PM watches football, eats pies or whatever. What matters is ability to do the job and for that matter actually having a decent go at doing it.

On the personal side, well I really couldn't care less if they're anyone from a former accountant to a stripper if they're capable of leading and willing to do so.

 

[mullokintyre]

That's the consequence of selecting leaders on personality rather than ability.

I mean seriously, I couldn't give a damn if the PM watches football, eats pies or whatever. What matters is ability to do the job and for that matter actually having a decent go at doing it.

On the personal side, well I really couldn't care less if they're anyone from a former accountant to a stripper if they're capable of leading and willing to do so.

Quite true, but how do you judge their ability to do the job?
Except in a very few failed cases, most applicants have never done the job, at best they have had the vice captain role, or led the other other team who really don't have be accountable to anything.
Indeed, most applicants have never worked outside the public sphere.
They have never had to cut down expenses when the business turns sour or economic conditions go against them.
They have never had to completely change direction of their business when technology, economics or politics demand they do so.
Because they rely on the patronage of whoever it was that tipped the most into their election coffers, their sense of what is important can be a little off.
But what is most damming of all, they live work and breathe in a strange remote place called canberra that bears little if any reality to the rest of Australia.
Been very few people in politics I admired since Tim Fisher and John Button retired.
Mick

 

[SirRumpole]

Quite true, but how do you judge their ability to do the job?
Except in a very few failed cases, most applicants have never done the job, at best they have had the vice captain role, or led the other other team who really don't have be accountable to anything.
Indeed, most applicants have never worked outside the public sphere.
They have never had to cut down expenses when the business turns sour or economic conditions go against them.
They have never had to completely change direction of their business when technology, economics or politics demand they do so.
Because they rely on the patronage of whoever it was that tipped the most into their election coffers, their sense of what is important can be a little off.
But what is most damming of all, they live work and breathe in a strange remote place called canberra that bears little if any reality to the rest of Australia.
Been very people in politics I admired since Tim Fisher and John Button retired.
Mick

It really comes down to giving one side a try and if they don't do the job properly, then give the other lot a go.

A pretty flawed system, but it's the best we've got at the moment imo.

 

[mullokintyre]

The problem is that Morrison, like Turnbull, Abbott, Howard and Keating all came from NSW.
Rudd from Qld (nuff said).
Hawke, the best Labour PM came from Vic, Gillard, the second best, also came from Vic.
They just keep picking the wrong state.
Mick

I should have added that Scomo's most likely replacement is also from NSW (ie. Sydney).
Things will not be any better.
Mick

 

[sptrawler]

Yes Mick, Western Australia can only lay claim to one Prime Minister John Curtin, by all accounts Australia's best PM.

 

[Humid]

Yes Mick, Western Australia can only lay claim to one Prime Minister, John Curtin.

Handy having a house in Sydney.....should be made to live in Canberra....in winter

 

[Tisme]

Yes Mick, Western Australia can only lay claim to one Minister John Curtin, by all accounts Australia's best PM.

I think you'll find WA lays claim to Leederville boy Bob Hawke too

 

[sptrawler]

I think you'll find WA lays claim to Leederville boy Bob Hawke too

I thought he was born in Bordertown, but grew up in W.A, where he probably had the Vic chip taken off his shoulder. ?

 

[Tisme]

I thought he was born in Bordertown, but grew up in W.A, where he probably had the Vic chip taken off his shoulder. ?

Yeah his Uncle was a WA Premier too. But for all intents and purposes he was Wassie bred model.

 

[Smurf1976]

I thought he was born in Bordertown, but grew up in W.A, where he probably had the Vic chip taken off his shoulder. ?

Whilst near the border as the name implies, Bordertown is in SA.

Notable things, apart from Hawke having lived there, is a park with white kangaroos in it.

 

[Smurf1976]

Quite true, but how do you judge their ability to do the job?

If it were a regular employment situation then an employer would be looking for some sort of experience at leadership, getting things done and operating under pressure as key attributes for a job of this nature.

Having run any successful business with employees would be extremely relevant. Doesn't matter what the business was so long as it was successful and involved a workforce not just themselves or family.

Having been in charge of anything big, needing to be done in real time without delay and where failure brings serious consequences such that problems must be worked around immediately also extremely relevant. Operational in charge roles in things like emergency services, plane or ship captains, industrial plant control rooms, logistics, and so on. Anything where you get unexpected serious problems without warning which require an immediate response and the mental ability to attend to multiple tasks at once, under serious pressure, and not mess them up. Operational jobs where there's no option to not do it, failure to deliver in real time just isn't acceptable.

At the opposite end of the scale, not desirable, an entire career in anything which involves pedantic argument with no requirement to deliver results in a timely manner. Noting that such things exist in the private sector as well as public.

 

[mullokintyre]

The problem is, that having the leader with all these qualities is not enough, because the leader is but one voice in many.
You need to have a majority of participants like this just to get anything done.
And then you have to overcome the massive inertia that is the Public Service.
Their processes, their protocols, their nclusivity, their consulting with all the stakeholders and all the other empty things they go on with.
Tough gig, very tough gig.
Mick

 

[sptrawler]

Interesting snippet in the paper.

Biotechs applaud tax cut move to keep Aussie research​

The federal government’s ‘patent box’ will almost halve the tax rate on Australian research that is commercialised locally.

 

[wayneL]

It's a pity we can't put the bastards on a 6 month trial

 

[mullokintyre]

Why not go one step further and have a few of them in there on work experience?
They could find out if the had a liking for the work, and everyone else would get an ideas as to whether they had the cajones to do it full time.
Mick

 

[Knobby22]

Today was interesting.

The religious laws which were designed to wedge Labor ended up wedging the Libs due the transgender clauses with many Libs crossing the floor.

More on a share investor interests the proxy advisor legislation designed to cripple them and give more power to directors and less to shareholders also didn't get through the Senate. I was more disgusted with this legislation.

Basically though this shows that the Liberals have principled members who won't sell us down the river and that Morrison has lost control of the party.

 

[PZ99]

Well he's well and truly lost control of Peter Dutton... twice in one week.

I reckon Dutto has dropped himself right in it today

 

[mullokintyre]

Well he's well and truly lost control of Peter Dutton... twice in one week.

I reckon Dutto has dropped himself right in it today

The libs have read the tea leaves and they know they are going to be sitting on the other side soon enough.
The contenders are positioning them selves for when Scomo falls on his sword.
Mick