The Death Penalty: Do/would you support it?

[Dukey]

Re: The Death Penalty. Do/would you support it?

Basically I'm against taking a life in revenge ... but occasionally there are some extreme cases - how about Hitler for example?? I've No problem with death penalty there.

Dunno enough about this one yet - but one thing is clear... at the very minimum, he should never have been let out.

Never to be released - should mean exactly that - irreversible - and while inside these thugs should be working their guts out on 'charitable' projects.

GPS tracking implants - you bet.
Remote controlled electric zapper GPS implants... even better .

 

[Pronto]

Re: The Death Penalty. Do/would you support it?

Although forty years ago we surrendered the right of the State to impose the capital sentence after a fair trial in a court of law, the State still reserves to itself the right to take life. The recent shooting death of a fleeing armed criminal by police in Melbourne raises yet again the irony of the State, having outlawed execution with trial, continuing to permit execution without trial.

The State arms the police as part of its duty to protect us. The criminals of course routinely arm themselves so as to stand a sporting chance. There are tough sentences for those who carry guns in the commission of crimes whether they use them or not.

But with many serious murderers being released from jail after ten to fifteen years, even the most stupid criminal reasons that he has nothing to lose by pulling the trigger, since he would stand to be punished just as severely for not doing so.

As far as our politicians are concerned, they continue to favour jail over execution for even the most heinous crimes, including serial killers, child murderers and cop killers. We, the governed, obligingly fulfil our part of the deal and continue to be murdered.

 

[spartn]

Re: The Death Penalty. Do/would you support it?

Hi guyz

I am personally a firm believer in the death penality, but only in extreme cases.

If you put a murder in jail for the rest of his life he might show remorse but his life will still go on. However, if I were a murder the days and weeks leading up to my execution would be to me a hell of a lot worse in many ways than knowing that i will never get released from jail.

Spartn

:viking:

 

[disarray]

Re: The Death Penalty. Do/would you support it?

Although forty years ago we surrendered the right of the State to impose the capital sentence after a fair trial in a court of law, the State still reserves to itself the right to take life. The recent shooting death of a fleeing armed criminal by police in Melbourne raises yet again the irony of the State, having outlawed execution with trial, continuing to permit execution without trial.

it was hardly an execution. the drug dealing criminal with a history of violent offences fired at police while being chased and was hit by return fire. good riddance to bad rubbish and we should show more support to police who have to face these violent, mainly ethnic thugs. giving the vic police decent weapons would be a good start.

 

[BradK]

Re: The Death Penalty. Do/would you support it?

As a general rule, I dont believe in the death penalty.

However, it should be reserved for one group of people - paedophiles.

Brad

 

[Happy]

Re: The Death Penalty. Do/would you support it?

As a general rule, I believe in the death penalty.

However, it should be reserved for one group of people - paedophiles.

Brad

We could make a list of those who do not deserve to live with us on our overpopulated planet with dimnishing resources and possibly global warming hanging over our heads.

 

[noirua]

Maybe the death penalty is an answer:
"She was tortured because of me": Boyzone founder whose obsessed ex beat, starved and murdered French nanny says he's 'haunted' over death
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/she-tortured-because-me-boyzone-12604767

 

[noirua]

Whether a person is for or against the death penalty may depend in some people's minds whilst others are absolutely for or against no matter what. Some might be for if there could be absolute certainty of an error not being made and others only for the most horrifical of crimes. This crime is one of those seen as horrific.

Fanny Adams - Wikipedia

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The Butchering of Sweet Fanny Adams

The Butchering of Sweet Fanny Adams

This is the true story of the kidnapping and brutal murder of young 8-year-old English girl Fanny Adams, straight from the Wikipedia page. Fanny Adams (30 April 1859 – 24 August 1867) was a young English girl murdered by solicitor's clerk Frederick Baker in Alton, Hampshire. The expression...

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Justice Mellor invited the jury to consider a verdict of not responsible by reason of insanity, but they returned a guilty verdict after just fifteen minutes. On 24 December, Christmas Eve, Baker was hung outside Winchester Gaol. The crime had become notorious and a crowd of 5,000 attended the execution. Before his death, Baker wrote to the Adams expressing his sorrow for what he had done "in an unguarded hour" and seeking their forgiveness. Baker's execution was the last to take place at Winchester.

Where does the English phrase "Sweet Fanny Adams" come from? From what I'm told, it's a lot like the American term zip, for nothing. However, there's got to be a story behind this.

Frederick Baker | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers

Murderpedia, the free online encyclopedic dictionary of murderers. The largest database about serial killers, mass murderers and spree killers around the world

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By Peter Trimming - Flickr: The Grave of Fanny Adams, CC BY 2.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=15304604

Alton, Hampshire, South of England: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alton,_Hampshire

 

[Smurf1976]

Some might be for if there could be absolute certainty of an error not being made

It certainly wouldn't be the first time that someone seen as innocent or even of high standing years later came to be known as a criminal of the worst kind when the truth finally came out.

Likewise the reverse, someone thought to have done something terrible is later found to have done nothing wrong at all.

So long as death remains irreversible, I'm opposed to it for that reason.

 

[sptrawler]

It certainly wouldn't be the first time that someone seen as innocent or even of high standing years later came to be known as a criminal of the worst kind when the truth finally came out.

Likewise the reverse, someone thought to have done something terrible is later found to have done nothing wrong at all.

So long as death remains irreversible, I'm opposed to it for that reason.

On the other hand, there are also those who are caught, punished, released and then re offend.
Complex issue.

Counting the risk of murderers re-offending | University of South Wales

criminology.research.southwales.ac.uk

 

[noirua]

Lisa Montgomery: First federal execution of woman goes ahead in 67 years after appeal lost (msn.com)

Kansas woman Lisa Montgomery, 52, was pronounced dead at 1.31 am (6.31 am GMT) on Wednesday after receiving a lethal injection at a federal prison in Terre Haute, Indiana.

 

[PZ99]

Do/would I support it?

If I was an axe wielding serial killer I would say no.

If I... or someone close to me was a potential victim of an axe wielding serial killer I would say yes

PS... why all the fuss about it being a woman ? They all wanted equality right ?

 

[wayneL]

To me this is a totally vexed question and since I am sitting here, three sheets to the wind on a Friday arvo, I'll do what I have sworn that I will never do, and offer my opinion on this topic.

My opinion is... f***** if I know.

The question is could I take that person's life myself. I'm quite confident that if it is on behalf of the legal system I could never do it, not in any sense or form.

However if someone had taken the life of someone dear to me, I ask myself the same question, could I take their life in retribution.

My answer is, that I don't know. Thankfully, I've never been placed in that position.

 

[sptrawler]

I guess most on here would be against it, unless it was Trump, then they would be sitting in the front row with the knitting out.????