Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[basilio]

The question Wayne, is how well is the President of the United States responding to the disaster that is unfolding with the CORVID19 virus. There is only one person in that seat at the moment. Whatever we think of anyone else is irrelevant.

So the question remains : How well is the Trump administration responding to this crisis ?

 

[basilio]

Perhaps we should check out The Dons latest Press Conference on how things are tracking with the Corona Virus ?

During a press briefing at the White House on Sunday evening, Trump again appeared to downplay the threat of the novel coronavirus. “Relax, we’re doing great,” he said, during short, meandering comments that focused mostly on celebrating a decision by the Federal Reserve to lower interest rates. “It all will pass.”

The president’s remarks stood in marked contrast to his lead infectious diseases expert, Dr Anthony Fauci, who used the same conference to warn: “The worst is ahead for us”, describing the crisis as reaching a “very, very critical point now”. Earlier in the day Dr Fauci had declined to rule out a “national lockdown” of bars and restaurants as he urged more aggressive measures, similar to those in Europe and elsewhere, to contain the virus.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...s-relax-were-doing-great-expert-worst-to-come

 

[basilio]

Interesting observation of how Mike Pence is handling his role with the CORVID 19 crisis.

Strangely competent Mike Pence finds his 9/11 moment in coronavirus crisis
Critics flagged up his anti-science background and questionable record as governor but the vice-president has won praise as the Covid-19 taskforce head
David Smith in Washington

@smithinamerica

Sat 21 Mar 2020 03.00 EDT Last modified on Sat 21 Mar 2020 03.01 EDT

His past record made him seem an odd choice. He remains as servile to Donald Trump as ever. But Mike Pence, the US vice-president, is said to be having “a good war” against the coronavirus outbreak.

...Pence, 60, earned early plaudits for his cool head and assured performances in the cacophony of the White House briefing room – probably benefiting from comparison with his volatile boss and two divisive press secretaries. Indeed, this week Trump has reasserted himself as the face of the administration as if to ensure Pence does not claim too much of the limelight.

“I think he’s been very helpful in moderating the president’s salesman instinct,” said Michael D’Antonio, co-author of The Shadow President: The Truth About Mike Pence. “The president loves to hype whatever he’s offering, in this case the message that everything is fine. Pence has done a better job than I expected of honouring the science.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/21/mike-pence-coronavirus-crisis

 

[Knobby22]

Still reckon the Republicans might replace Trump with Pence.

 

[dutchie]

I think Trump needs to postpone the 2020 election until the China Virus has been exterminated.

 

[chiff]

Still reckon the Republicans might replace Trump with Pence.

Has that got something to with 'a bad penny always turns up'

 

[IFocus]

Has Trump really lost it or is he totally disconnected?

 

[Knobby22]

I think Trump needs to postpone the 2020 election until the China Virus has been exterminated.

I am sure he will try to do this, ......for the sake of the people of course.

 

[Knobby22]

Has Trump really lost it or is he totally disconnected?

He was believing what he saw on Fox that the virus was inconsequential and when last week they suddenly changed their tune he became lost.

He has left the USA totally unprepared. Effectively shut down/sacked the pandemic section of government last year, didn't order any equipment (unlike Australia) and now can't handle the reality of being responsible for at least 2 million dead Americans over the next 3 months.

Wrong man at the wrong time.

 

[IFocus]

He was believing what he saw on Fox that the virus was inconsequential and when last week they suddenly changed their tune he became lost.

He has left the USA totally unprepared. Effectively shut down/sacked the pandemic section of government last year, didn't order any equipment (unlike Australia) and now can't handle the reality of being responsible for at least 2 million dead Americans over the next 3 months.

Wrong man at the wrong time.

Yes Greek tragedy in the making US style.

 

[bellenuit]

Still reckon the Republicans might replace Trump with Pence.

Pence may be a bit better, but unless the elections are deferred, which is quite possible with this administration (acknowledging I don't know the legality of doing so), replacing Trump within the next month may already be too late to stop the spread of the virus and mounting deaths. Pence, for the few months he would be in power, would still cop a lot of the blame. I would think they will wait until the last moment and then replace him with Pence, so that almost all the blame is attributed to Trump and Pence can go to the election with some clean air. Although Pence as VP and leading the COVID-19 response is equally as culpable as Trump, the GOP and FOX spin doctors will try and suggest that internally Pence opposed Trump's actions, so is not to blame.

 

[satanoperca]

Everyone who has contributed to this thread, firstly, if you have friends or family in the USA, my consolidation, but for the sack of humanity, this is a great situation.

We get to have an A/B test environment, China Lockdown/ USA no lockdown

Donald, goes it alone, opens the borders, lets the virus spread, no lock down, will he show that this approach is better than f---king the countries entire economy due to the loss of 1-2% of the elderly population (that would be dead in 1-10 years anyway).

Great stuff.

 

[macca]

I think Trump could be weighing up world depression or sick people dying against a much healthier financial USA.

Not at all compassionate but will less people die in the long run..............

Some medicos in the USA are saying best to catch it while fit and healthy rather than when worn to a frazzle, expose now, build immunity, carry on...............

I am wondering if we will hear of large short positions taken soon after the bug escaped in countries who may have been aware that this bug existed and shorted the market

 

[IFocus]

My take on it will be it will vary state to state depending on the urgency of actions taken state by state.

One thing about it is the US is very good at producing stats so we will get a clear picture of how it unfolds.

Pundits are predicting the poor will pay a high cost maybe Trumps betting they don't vote for him.

To be honest I don't think he is that evil, but then who knows I guess we will have to wait for the book to come out.

So far most negative evaluations of Trump's leadership seem to be proving correct, God help America.

BTW its all Hillary's fault.

 

[Knobby22]

Everyone who has contributed to this thread, firstly, if you have friends or family in the USA, my consolidation, but for the sack of humanity, this is a great situation.

We get to have an A/B test environment, China Lockdown/ USA no lockdown

Donald, goes it alone, opens the borders, lets the virus spread, no lock down, will he show that this approach is better than f---king the countries entire economy due to the loss of 1-2% of the elderly population (that would be dead in 1-10 years anyway).

Great stuff.

And yet South Korea and Japan has shown you can win the battle without killing a big chunk of your population and get the economy back quite quickly.

 

[satanoperca]

Have they, show me some some facts, well you might be able to, today, but this is early days, how about in a months time?
"get the economy back quite quickly", sorry just re-read your comments, Japan has done a great job about their economy.

 

[Knobby22]

Yes, let's see what you think in a months time.
Fox and the president are developing their excuses and blame sharing.

 

[moXJO]

That's is what trump is currently saying:

"We should never be reliant on a foreign country for the means of our own survival. I think we’ve learned a lot. This crisis has underscored just how critical it is to have strong borders and a robust manufacturing sector. For three years, we’ve embarked on a great national project to secure our immigration system and bring back our manufacturing jobs. We’ve brought back many jobs, record numbers of jobs, and this really shows, this experience shows how important borders are. Without borders, you don’t have a nation."

Something like 90% or high of antibiotics made come from outside the US. He went on to mention that the US needs to be self reliant.
All these points I would be happy for Australia to undertake even though I doubt it's possible for us to do.

But nooo globalization good for the dems. They cashed in so far.

 

[Knobby22]

The dems? Pulling a long bow. Gee all those Dems running companies and moving the factories overseas. If only the Republicans had of been running the country and owning those companies.

 

[sptrawler]

He was believing what he saw on Fox that the virus was inconsequential and when last week they suddenly changed their tune he became lost.

He has left the USA totally unprepared. Effectively shut down/sacked the pandemic section of government last year, didn't order any equipment (unlike Australia) and now can't handle the reality of being responsible for at least 2 million dead Americans over the next 3 months.

Wrong man at the wrong time.

Obviously the U.S general public don't agree with you Knobby, he has just achieved his highest popularity rating 44%. Obviously what is being broadcast here is different to the U.S, or people are just putting their own spin on it.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-...ing-coronavirus-pandemic-20200326-p54e0e.html
From the article:
US President Donald Trump's approval ratings have hit an all-time high during the coronavirus crisis, with a majority of Americans saying they approve of his handling of the pandemic.

The development - evident across a range of recent polls - has astounded Trump's critics who expected the American public to judge him harshly for his often misleading and erratic response to the outbreak.
The country's two most closely-watched polling aggregators both show Trump recording his best approval ratings since he took office. RealClearPolitics puts him at 46.3 per cent approval and Nate Silver's FiveThirtyEight at 44.6 per cent.