wavepicker said:Looks like time is starting to show the chartists right again Young Trader. Zinc and ZFX getting thumped, this is obviously some degree of 3rd wave happening.
This is shaping up exactly as expected in posts #543, 545, and 547. This was always a high probability for a fall.
How many techies apart from myself barney were bearish Zinc/ZFX early Jan???
Hardly any. Not even most other EW prationers on this site. This is why on occasion not even EW analysis is enough, and wavecounts need to be quantified and alternates narrowed down.
As for the fundementalists they were and still are perma bulls. Looks like they are gonna have to wait a while.
Rederob, you stated that Zinc would go to 5500 per ton soon back in late Dec. It was obvious back that this was a low probability scenario and that zinc would see 3000/3500 per ton before 5500.
Cheers
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Kauri said:ZFX thread...3 Jan... post 1209..
ZFX thread...8 Jan....post 1209..
But for me just starting out in E/W I find it is not about being right as much as it is about being profitable. I enjoy your posts and find them very informative, thanks for sharing your knowledge.
wavepicker said:Looks like time is starting to show the chartists right again Young Trader. Zinc and ZFX getting thumped, this is obviously some degree of 3rd wave happening.
This is shaping up exactly as expected in posts #543, 545, and 547. This was always a high probability for a fall.
How many techies apart from myself barney were bearish Zinc/ZFX early Jan???
Hardly any. Not even most other EW prationers on this site. This is why on occasion not even EW analysis is enough, and wavecounts need to be quantified and alternates narrowed down.
As for the fundementalists they were and still are perma bulls. Looks like they are gonna have to wait a while.
Rederob, you stated that Zinc would go to 5500 per ton soon back in late Dec. It was obvious back that this was a low probability scenario and that zinc would see 3000/3500 per ton before 5500.
Cheers
How many
YOUNG_TRADER said:Hi Wave picker, congrats on being correct,
I too sold out of all my Zinc plays in Dec 2006, not because of Wave analysis or charting the Commodity but because I noticed the
- Zinc Drawdowns vs Additions balance was shifting ie finally more Zinc was coming in than going out
- I too heard China had become a Net Exporter and I firmly stick to the rule of only stay long what china is short of!
My plays since Dec have been Iron Ore, Nickel, Uranium, Oil and Gold as well (usually combined with other commodity projects)
ie HLX Gold + Iron Ore + Uranium
BYR Gold + Uranium
etc
BREND said:My feel that the fall in zinc price was overdone. Zinc demand has actually picked up in China after the sharp fall. However metal prices at LME are currently controlled by hedge funds, with funds selling zinc call options, $3700, Mar 07, looks like they will not allow the price to rise too much before the option expiration date in Mar 07. Looking from a longer term perspective, zinc price does look cheap now.
Volatile for sure: from Bloombergchops_a_must said:The volatility of base metal prices over the last week has been incredible. 3, 4, 5% each night, either way seems like nothing. Good luck to everyone hanging on!
Interesting article at http://www.kitco.com/ind/Dorsch/feb072007.html by By Gary Dorsch February 7, 2007 www.sirchartsalot.com Lots of intersting stuff! Includes ….. “Until January, zinc was closely tracking Chinese steel exports, as the good way to gauge Chinese demand for zinc. But the tight relationship has broken down, over the past two months, possibly a signal of global economic slowdown. On the other hand, the decline in zinc might just be a blow-off of speculative froth from hedge funds, and the market must gauge where industrials users will step in to buy the metal and provide a solid base of support”imajica said:the fall in the zinc spot price will only be temporary - stockpiles are still at all time lows and there is a projected increase in use of the metal - major new mines won't be coming on line for ages if the spot price is depressed, it's being manipulated by people who have a vested interest in keeping the price artificially capped
Bloody Warick Capper, he's everywhere!!!!imajica said:the fall in the zinc spot price will only be temporary - stockpiles are still at all time lows and there is a projected increase in use of the metal - major new mines won't be coming on line for ages
if the spot price is depressed, it's being manipulated by people who have a vested interest in keeping the price artificially capped
LONDON, Feb 8 (Reuters) - London Metal Exchange zinc dropped 6 percent on Thursday to touch phychological support at $3,000 per tonne as funds sold.
The longs seem to be giving up, a trader said.
By 1230 GMT zinc <MZN3> was at $3,025/3,045 versus $3,190 in the previous session.
rwkni1 said:Where is zinc traded in the US? I'm pretty sure its not on Comex or Nymex....
COMEX Electronic Metals Futures Move to CME’s Globex.
Comex electronic metal futures will begin trading on the CME Globex system the
evening of Sunday December 3, 2006. Where applicable, these electronic contracts will
trade side-by-side with their pit traded contracts providing nearly 24 hour access to these
markets. Below are the QT Symbols, they can also be found in QT's
London
LA: Comex/CME Globex London ALUMINUM 10 metric tons
LK: Comex/CME Globex London COPPER 5 metric tons
LZ: Comex/CME Globex London ZINC 10 metric tons
rwkni1 said:Where is zinc traded in the US? I'm pretty sure its not on Comex or Nymex....
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