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rederob said:wavepicker
I didn't comment on your AUD/USD view: But I think it is a brave call.
If you are right then I think my commodity boom scenario will have gone up a gear.
I see a very mixed bag for commodities next year.
I think the greeenback is a basket case in need of a new weaver.
rederob said:Cheers wavepicker.
My logic on your post is that if the USD is higher next year, it will imply that present economic sluggishness has been mitigated.
That would likely also imply that auto and housing markets were back to normal. In turn causing a marked pickup in base metal demand, especially copper.
I agree with your view on gold.
I don't think zinc has a chance in hades of getting back to $3000 within 12 months.
Let the passage of time reveal all!
rederob said:Into 2007 there are only two other metal picks - in preference, uranium, and then nickel (although nickel will find it hard to do stellar things given its 160% increase this year).
Although copper came and went (rising over 170% year on year to its May price peak) it is definitely not "collapsing", as many have feared.
michael_selway said:Wavepicker, looking at the chart, theres is atleast another uptrend wave before any big fall, more likely 2
thx
MS
rederob said:wavepicker
seeing you have been kind enough to focus on the future with your chart, I will tell you that my thoughts place zinc over $5000 in March/April. I see this present consolidation ending by mid-January and the US market (via New Orleans' warehouse drawdowns) revitalising zinc's price.
It is my firm view that China is taking full advantage of present (comparatively) high backwardations to profit via deliveries to LME Singapore.
However, consumer destocking, which is a theme heading towards end of year, should come to an end in January and we should begin to see zinc drawdowns resume on an ongoing basis, although not at the heady levels we saw in 2006 - simply because the backwardation will do to zinc consumers what it has done to nickel consumers; convert them into hand-to-mouth survival mode.
Does the end of the 5th wave automatically mean free fall?wavepicker said:Please refer to the chart below. It is that of another company frequently discussed on ASF. Buy and holders of this stock are looking for fundemental reasons why this has capitulated. My take is it would have tanked it anyway. It does not matter what business this company is involved in. Now how could we have known this stock price was gona tank it. Easy, we counted to 5!
This same pattern is currently apparent in Zinc, ZFX, and possibly developing the XAO at the moment.
I think there is a fair chance we will see 3000 in Zinc before 5000
Cheers
chops_a_must said:Does the end of the 5th wave automatically mean free fall?
I am not a chartist but I have to say I don't quite understand the reasoning behind the fifth wave thing and why that means a free fallwavepicker said:rederob, I respectfully disagree with your $5000 zinc price by march/April. It is a low probability outcome.
Please refer to the chart below. It is that of another company frequently discussed on ASF. Buy and holders of this stock are looking for fundemental reasons why this has capitulated. My take is it would have tanked it anyway. It does not matter what business this company is involved in. Now how could we have known this stock price was gona tank it. Easy, we counted to 5!
This same pattern is currently apparent in Zinc, ZFX, and possibly developing the XAO at the moment.
I think there is a fair chance we will see 3000 in Zinc before 5000
Cheers
chops_a_must said:I'm confused as to what could actually drive such a down trend in ZFX. Not that it really bothers me much, except providing more buying opportunities. Just seems every time Nickel and Zinc dives, it bounces. Although I'm not expecting Nickel or Zinc prices to go that much higher, I can't see it crashing like you have predicted. There would have to be some kind of unforeseen event or change before I could accept your negative outlook.
As others have noted in the ZFX thread, it is a notoriously hard stock to analyse. Defies rules and expectations, and bounces off important resistance points. Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised to see it in the 15's again in the short term, seems to get heavy buying there.
But with ZFX, I think you need to look at intraday charts as well. Because even on days where it does dive, it doesn't close on lows, and buyers come in as soon as it is sold off.
Not that any of this is expert opinion or anything, just what I have noticed.
Fab said:I am not a chartist but I have to say I don't quite understand the reasoning behind the fifth wave thing and why that means a free fall
So I believe on wednesday we will have a sharemarket correction but mainly because of what happened in America overnight
wavepicker said:Hi Fab,
rather than freefall, let just say a "mirror image foldback" move(which in itself is quite a move) of the last major leg up from August, becuase that's how long I think it will take to complete that correction
Cheers
wavepicker said:Enough said from me on this thread for now.
I respect your both of your views on this topic and you sound like you know your stuff when it comes to fundematals of metals and miners in general.
Don't mean to be a thorn in any way, just expressing my opinion on TA based on previous experience. If I had this knowledge 6.5 years ago in the dot.com bubble I could have saved $150K in paper profits evaporating quite quickly!
Have a great xmas
Cheers
Uranium, zinc seen as top performers for 2007
ANGELA BARNES
Globe and Mail Update
Uranium, which has posted the third-best gain among Canadian commodities this year, will likely take the top spot on the performance chart in 2007, according to commodities expert Patricia Mohr, vice-president of Scotia Economics.
She expects spot uranium prices will average $80 (U.S.) a pound through 2007 but end the year at close to $90. That is up from an average $48.10 this year and a low of only $7.10 in late 2000. Ms. Mohr explained that the rise in uranium reflects a secular change in global energy markets, brought on in part by the shift by utilities from high-priced fossil fuels to nuclear power, rather than a cyclical upswing.
“Nuclear power generation emits virtually no greenhouse gases ”” another factor attracting interest in countries such as China,” she said in the latest monthly report on the Bank of Nova Scotia's commodity price index.
Zinc is Ms. Mohr's other top pick for 2007. Inventories of zinc on the London Metal Exchange have plunged by 78 per cent since late 2005, which has pushed prices of the metal to a record $2.10 a pound on Nov. 24. “Zinc is likely to move even higher in the first half of 2007 before significant mine expansion begins to trim prices in late 2007 and in 2008,” she said.
She sees the metals and minerals retaining their leadership position among commodities, but also anticipates that precious metals, especially silver, will benefit from further weakness in the U.S. dollar.
Furthermore, “potash fertilizer should yield good gains for investors,” she added. “Wheat, barley and canola should also perform quite well relative to past experience, linked to new demand for ethanol additives in gasoline and biodiesel,” she said.
Nickel was the best performer among the 32 commodities included in the commodity price index in 2006, climbing 159 per cent over the year. LME nickel prices surged to a record $16.08 a pound a week ago, buoyed by news that BHP Billiton Ltd.'s Ravensthorpe project in Australia will not come on stream until 2008 and that Inco Ltd./Companhia Vale do Rio Doce's Goro mine in New Caledonia will be delayed until late 2008. That raised concerns about supply in a time of robust global demand.
Ms. Mohr expects a “supercycle” in nickel, with prices remaining strong through 2008.
Ms. Mohr sees crude oil prices declining only modestly in 2007 from current levels. She expects the West Texas intermediate crude price will average $60 a barrel next year, which compares with an average of $66 this year and $56.56 in 2005.
The Scotia commodity price index rebounded in November, jumping 7.7 per cent from October, after declining 4.2 per cent in October and 3.3 per cent in September. That left the index, which measures price trends in Canada's major commodity exports, up 4.3 per cent from a year earlier and near its May record.
The oil and gas index increased in November as Canadian natural gas export prices recovered sharply from an oversold position relative to residual fuel oil.
Crude prices also edged higher. So far in December, they have averaged more than $62, up from the $59.40 in November and $59.14 in October.
The metal and mineral index soared to a record last month, the second record in as many months. Meanwhile, the forest products index inched higher and the agricultural products advanced in the face of surging canola prices.
Where to from here? ZFX bounced from below 18 again.wavepicker said:Hi Chops,
not necassarily, sometimes the market corrects slightly makes an unorthodox new high slightly above the 5th and then falls impulsively. However because zinc has completed an Ending Diagonal pattern( ie a small wedge) at the end of the 5th wave, chances are that the pattern that falls will initially be a sharp reversal of some type. There are quite a few scenarios probable.
There are no guarantees however, that is why we must place protective stops with every position.
Will be interesting to see how this works out
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