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cathers_420 said:Sorry guys had this in CBH thread but prob is much more relevant here
China's Zinc Demand to Increase 56% by 2010, Antaike Forecasts
By Chia-Peck Wong
Aug. 24 (Bloomberg) -- The demand for zinc in China, the world's biggest consumer of the metal, may rise 56 percent by 2010, Beijing Antaike Information Development Co. has forecast.
To contact the reporter for this story: Chia-Peck Wong in Inner Mongolia at cpwong@bloomberg.net
Last Updated: August 23, 2006 21:35 EDT
YOUNG_TRADER said:LME Warehouse Stocks 24 Aug 2006
Close In Out +/- On Warrant Cancelled
Copper 124325 1775 100 +1675 113625 10700
Zinc 178450 0 725 -725 137550 40900
Getting close to coppers levels
kennas said:What does that effectively mean MS?
MSmichael_selway said:Alot of Zinc was Sold overnight ie On Warrant decreased by about 8000 tonnes
thx
MS
rederob said:MS
You are a worry!
The zinc was sold a long time ago.
What has happened is that warrants have been exercised - ie cancelled - and buyers have chosen to take delivery of the metal.
Accordingly, that metal will be moved out of the various warehouses in days/weeks to come, and land in the laps of typical consumers.
I am still waiting for MS to respond to his "fake buying" claim, made a few days ago: Willbe interested to understand where/how this happens.
MSmichael_selway said:Hi Red
Basically Nickel "ins" are frequent as you can see, unlike zinc
Put simply, if there are frequent "ins" why is there still alot of "cancellatons"?
Wouldnt it be wise to buy it from the "ins" before they enter LME as "ins", than by jacking up the price by buying the "Open", ie already at LME?
In other words, someone is trying to jacking up the price, but the outside underlying demand/supply is actually in surplus, since theres frequent "ins' atm
thx
MS
nizar said:Rederob,
Thanks for your reply
It shows your knowledge on these matters and u are truly an asset to this forum
All the best
Fab said:It won't be a good day for zinc today on the asx . Drop 5% overnight
Metal temporarily "vanishes" in LME warehouse merger
By Nick Trevethan
396 words
23 September 2006
02:33
Reuters News
English
(c) 2006 Reuters Limited
LONDON, Sept 22 (Reuters) - London Metal Exchange (LME) aluminium and zinc stocks dipped on Friday as thousands of tonnes of metal appear to have been removed from warehouses in northeast England, according to data supplied by the LME.
But the falls -- 4,500 tonnes of zinc and 4,225 of aluminium, held in warehouses in Newcastle and Sunderland, were just part of the exchange's attempts to merge the two reporting locations into one.
"This isn't correct. It doesn't reflect the real world and potentially causes a disorderly market," a trader said.
In July, the exchange said it would start to treat warehouses in Newcastle and Sunderland as the same location within SWORD -- the system that manages warrants for LME metal.
The warehouses themselves did not change and the move was purely administrative.
"This was an exceptional situation and we have informed members of what would happen," an LME spokesman said.
"There were notes on the stocks pages today and there will more on Monday explaining the transfer of these warrants from Newcastle and Sunderland to Tyne and Wear."
Warrant holders were asked to cancel and invalidate warrants for metals in Newcastle and Sunderland before close of business on 21 September.
"(This is) in order to allow...good time to recreate the warrants under the location of Tyne & Wear before...stock reporting on the 22 September thus ensuring the stock reports will accurately reflect stock holdings in Tyne & Wear.
But that meant LME stocks of zinc appeared to fall by four percent to 144,075 tonnes, while aluminium inventories seem to 693,050 tonnes.
"This is ridiculous. It creates the impression that there is less metal in the system than there actually is. The metal is still there, it has just been re-classified. I am sure this could have been done with a lot more finesse," another dealer said.
A third dealer said: "We have heard of brokers who have had complaints after trying to sell Sunderland material to their clients that doesn't exist according to the exchange data. It creates a very poor impression."
Dealers expect stocks in the new location, Tyne and Wear, to rise on Monday by about the same amount that they fell on Friday.
want-cash said:If you want to invest in zinc look no further than AIM resources this baby is set to soar, 26 percent increase yesterday, with volume skyorcketing to over 20 million today. This stock is way undervalued look out for it , it's a strong buy!
Time Source Headline
9/20/2006 4:56:51 AM Dow Jones INTERVIEW: Australia's CBH Pre-commits To Zinc Project
By James Attwood
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
SYDNEY (Dow Jones)--Confident zinc's four-year bull has much further to run, Australia's CBH Resources Ltd. (CBH.AU) is ordering long-lead items for an estimated US$100 million project ahead of a formal go-ahead decision.
A feasibility study into the Sulphur Springs project won't be ready until month-end but CBH has decided to proceed with the purchase of A$9 million in equipment, said Chairman James Wall.
"We're in the process of making a pre-commitment for ordering the sag and ball mills - they're long-lead items and in this environment you've got to get yourself in the queue," Wall told Dow Jones in an interview Tuesday.
Sulphur Springs is in Western Australia's Pilbara region, where giant iron ore expansion projects run by BHP Billiton (BHP) and Rio Tinto (RTP) are adding to the intense global competition for mining materials and labor.
After a capital investment "in the order" of US$100 million, the mine will process at least 1.25 metric tons of ore a year from 2008, churning out 75,000 tons of zinc concentrate and 65,000 tons of copper concentrate, Wall said.
But the company is also looking at a model based on 1.5 million tons throughput, thereby exceeding output at the company's only current operating asset, the Endeavour zinc and lead mine in central New South Wales state.
Sulphur Springs' logical offtaker, at least for the project's zinc concentrates, is CBH's 24.8% shareholder, Toho Zinc Co. (5707.TO) of Japan.
The commitment to order long-lead items allows the project to progress while CBH puts together a financing package over the next four to five months, Wall said.
While funds could come from an equity raising or arrangements with offtakers, debt raising is expected to play a large part.
"All those doors are open, but CBH only has A$6-7 million debt, so there's potential to do quite a lot more without affecting the gearing ratio."
But Wall said debt financing is unlikely to entail hedging.
"I'm not against buying puts at the right time in the market but I'm against selling forward the metal, which has the effect of locking you into particular prices, whereas puts are more like an insurance policy."
Zinc, used to galvanize steel, surged to an all-time high US$4,000 a ton in May before falling back into a volatile, range-bound trading pattern in recent months, prompting some to call the end of a nearly four-year uptrend.
But Wall said now is "definitely not the right time" to be buying puts, describing current base metal price weakness as "a nice little correction."
"It's early days - we're not anywhere near the top of the market in my view."
His confidence is driven by critically low, and still shrinking, global zinc stocks as years of exploration under-investment and structural expansion barriers constrain the supply side's ability to react to China-led global demand.
The bullish market view gives CBH the confidence to grow on several fronts, he said, pointing to the company's ongoing takeover of Triako Resources Ltd. (TKR.AU), whose Mineral Hill project is expected to add around 30,000 tons to Endeavour's output within 18 months.
Wall said Endeavour's throughput rate has all but recovered from a "self mining" incident last year: "In the last quarter I would anticipate we'll be back at 1.2 million tons a year."
At the same time, CBH is waiting for the New South Wales state government's nod to begin an exploration decline at its Broken Hill brownfield project. A formal decision on whether to go ahead with a new underground mine at Broken Hill is expected next year.
In total, the company is looking to reach around 300,000 tons annual production in the coming years to become Australia's third-largest zinc miner, after Zinifex Ltd. (ZFX.AU) and Xstrata PLC (XTA.LN).
-By James Attwood, Dow Jones Newswires; 612-8235-2957; james.attwood@dowjones.com
-Edited by Paul Godby
(END) Dow Jones Newswires
September 19, 2006 23:56 ET (03:56 GMT)
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