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I can't believe how hard it is to get "real" news about the Zimbabwean situation.
Although we know Mugabe is a thug, very little is reported on what's happening on the ground.
Here's a link to a great site:http://www.zimbabwesituation.com/
And here's a snippet:

Iron Bars and Scalding Water
Newsweek

These are among the ruling party's weapons against opposition voters. Still, the population clearly didn't cooperate in Friday's vote.

By Rod Nordland | Newsweek Web Exclusive
Jun 28, 2008 | Updated: 1:25 p.m. ET Jun 28, 2008

Some details, such as timing and description of movements, in the following are altered for the safety of NEWSWEEK's reporter.

There's an open question whether Zimbabwe's election Friday would be valid even if it hadn't been marred by violence and intimidation, because it's pretty clear that a fairly small percentage of people actually turned out to vote. Some legal experts say that at least 50 percent of the registered
voters would have needed to cast their ballots. No results have been released as yet officially (for what that's worth), but a sampling of a dozen polling places in Harare and the nearby town of Chitungwiza is pretty compelling.

At the Tamuka polling place for the 24th Ward in Chitungwiza, 1,212 voters chose President Robert Mugabe, 513 chose opposition candidate Morgan Tsvangirai, and 786 deliberately spoiled their ballot in an apparent protest. And that of course doesn't begin to count those who heeded the opposition's boycott and just didn't vote. That ward has 22,000 registered voters, and only 12.7 percent participated meaningfully. In contrast, during the first presidential race on March 29, voter turnouts were very high.

On Saturday a few shops and businesses opened but it was still preternaturally quiet in the capital, Harare, as if people were collectively holding their breath, waiting for the retribution that ZANU-PF enforcers had promised for those who voted against them or stayed away from the polls.
Activists from the government party were searching bread lines outside bakeries this morning, checking people's fingers. Those who didn't have the telltale purple ink showing they had voted, were pulled out of line and told they'd be allowed no bread.

It didn't take long for outright violence to break out, either. Ismail Siyarun, the secretary of Tsvangirai's Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) in the Chitungwiza district, wisely fled his house Friday night; at 1 a.m. on Saturday, a gang of Green Bombers, Mugabe's youth militia, ransacked the place, breaking all the windows and stealing whatever of his belongings seemed worth taking, mostly clothing and household items. Siyarun was just happy they didn't get his family or him; in the course of the election campaigns of recent years, he's been arrested 32 times.

We dropped by a hospital in Harare to talk to some MDC victims, though all of them had been attacked before the election, some as recently as Thursday. We were immediately told that journalists have been banned from this hospital (probably from all of them by now), but we presented ourselves as friends of victims, and the nurses on reception just shrugged. The victims, whom Siyarun had identified for us, were MDC activists from Chitungwiza and we only had a chance to talk to three of them; many more are there as well. They'd all been targeted separately by large gangs of ZANU-PF activists, and savagely beaten with iron bars and clubs.

Jacob Muvavi, 38, a municipal policeman himself, was singled out for particularly harsh treatment and taken to a ZANU-PF base, where he was beaten for three hours and had scalding water thrown on his wounds. His tormentors wanted him to confess where he was hiding his MDC T-shirt, so they could make him publicly destroy it, but he refused. Eventually one of his fellow policemen heard where he was and rescued him. "I will never give up my T-shirt," Muvavi said.

Winfielder Musarrurwa, 21, a youth leader for the MDC, only survived because her tormentors left her for dead. "I pretended to be dead and they left me," she said. They had found her at 1 a.m. on Thursday, hiding in her sister's house, stripped off her clothing and beat her with sticks and iron bars on her buttocks and privates. She readily dropped her dress to show the evidence, which was horrifying-modesty surrendered in the sake of giving testimony. They also poured scalding water on her wounds and pounded her arms until they were black and blue. It hasn't dampened her spirit any. "I will never stop supporting the MDC and Morgan Tsvangirai, even if it costs me my life," she said.
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Mugabe has successfully destroyed his country, piece by piece removed any system of government and all the normal structures that a society and country need.

He has made mass violence a normal part of the country, turned the population upside down. And made violence a normal part of life that will stay with the country for decades.

The saddest thing is that regardless of who wins the election ( even if the opposition did win and take power) that the country is totally decimated and will take a several decades to return to the country they did have if at all.

Will the west and South Africa actually have the long term vision to stay the course and help Zimbabwe?? I doubt it... Maybe they should invite Al'qaeda into the country maybe they would get some action from the west.
 
Does this remind anybody of 'the last king of scotland'?

No oil in Zimbabwe! Though, I'm surprised the UN couldn't do with the gold! :rolleyes:
 
Zimbabwe is a dogs breakfast run by the usual bunch of self serving, self interest troop of baboons.

Get rid of this lot and you will likely get a similar outcome again further down the track.

Maybe this is the template for South Africa down the road some where.
 
At least Kenya's Raila Odinga is calling it like it is...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/06/29/2289067.htm?section=justin

Kenya PM urges African troops to resolve Zimbabwe 'embarassment'
Posted 1 hour 24 minutes ago
Updated 22 minutes ago

Kenya's Prime Minister Raila Odinga has called for African Union (AU) troops to be sent in to Zimbabwe, as President Robert Mugabe prepares to be declared winner in an uncontested presidential run-off.

............
You can not say you have won an election in which you arrest your opponents, where you beat and kill your opponents, where people cannot campaign because you have locked them in jail."

Mr Odinga also responded to media reports that Mr Mugabe had said the Kenyan premier was persona non grata in Zimbabwe.

"Mugabe says that Raila is his enemy number one. I do not need to go to Zimbabwe ... I don't intend to do so under Mugabe's leadership," he said in the comments carried by Kenyan newspapers and broadcasters
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what a useless wimp Mbeki is :eek:
I have received information that President Mbeki is lobbying at the African Union to have that position (that Mugabe is president) taken," Tsvangirai told the Sunday Times newspaper in South Africa
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a dance to look forward to :2twocents
https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=280930&highlight=mugabe#post280930
 
Terrible mess.

One of the few times when i would say a bullet is the only way to fix him.

:bigun2:
 
The international community should hang its collective head in shame,including our own government. They all go on mouthing the same platitudes about how shocking the situation is. And do bloody nothing.
 
The real problem was apparently with others in the govt and there concerns
about there future...over a political purge that happened many years ago.

Apparently when u go killing people based on political outcomes there
some down side years later :dunno:

So an immunity deal needs to be done to move forward.
 
It has been reported a few minutes ago by CNN that Zimbabwe's new Prime Minister, Morgan Tsvangirai has been involved in a car accident.
He has been rushed to hospital: http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/

***More news as it comes in.
 
noirua said:
It has been reported a few minutes ago by CNN that Zimbabwe's new Prime Minister, Morgan Tsvangirai has been involved in a car accident.
He has been rushed to hospital: http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/

***More news as it comes in.
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Prime Minister was involved in a head-on collision with a large truck on the Harare-Masvingo Road, according to a spokesman. Four people were injured in the accident.

****Separate source says an announcement is expected very shortly.****
 
Horrible. I thought it sounded a little suss too. Truck just happens to veer off to the other side of the road and hit his car. yeah right. It might be early but I can only hope he can get support, use this as strength and overthrow Mugabe, so at least in someway she didn't die in vain.
 
Bit lazy of me , but can anybody inform me of an African country thats doing OK with a transparent democratically elected leadership .

??
 
Bobby said:
Bit lazy of me , but can anybody inform me of an African country thats doing OK with a transparent democratically elected leadership .

??
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Here's two...Ghana and Botswana

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Since independence, Botswana has had the highest average economic growth rate in the world, averaging about 9% per year from 1966 to 1999. Growth in private sector employment has averaged about 10% per annum over the first 30 years of independence. The relatively high quality of the country's statistics means that these figures are likely to be quite accurate. The government has consistently maintained budget surpluses and has extensive foreign exchange reserves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Botswana
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/bc.html

The economy of Ghana, West Africa has a diverse and rich resource base, and as such, has one of the highest GDP per capita in Africa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Ghana
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/gh.html#Govt

Julia said:
Botswana
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just noticed u beat me too it :)
 

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