theasxgorilla
Problem solved... next bubble.
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coyotte said:They are showing the conflict I find in mixing various methods.
theasxgorilla said:Coyotte,
You've illustrated well what I think Magdoran might have been saying about "bolt on" methods, like EW.
Based on the EW count chart on the left hand side, you'd expect the move up to be exhausted, right (5th of the 5th...)? But looking at the chart on the right a trend-following system might be saying, enter now and go long, blue sky.
I revert to Magdoran's comments about such a method being applicable in about 30% of situations. This is one of the other 70%. In the AGET chart the EW count has been "discovered", but if I was doing that count visually and by hand I think I'd be more inclined to say that there isn't an obvious count there.
wavepicker said:To get the most out about what is happening in terms of EW, you MUST start with the "big picture first" The primary long term wavecount is the starting point.
theasxgorilla said:I totally agree...and still struggle to get a clear wave count onto BSL. Anybody game?
External retracement!wayneL said:I would have thought there was more interest in the Fib extension. Is 2.618 unreasonable? I guess not for the young'uns. I'll be happy with 1.27
56gsa said:Yogi - you are an enigma!
ref first message on this thread re PNN
06022007 ... positive news expected here. ANNOUNCEMENT 7/2
22022007 ... minor and intraday rally? 176 low 187 high
23-26022007 ... minor and positive PEAK OF THE RETRACEMENT
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March 2007.
05032007 ... significant and negative 151 down to 135 low
22032007 ... significant and positive news ... TODAY 144.5 to high of 165
yogi-in-oz said:
HAPPY NEW YEAR, Gannsters ... !~!
happy trading
paul
P.S. ..... now let's hear why the EW crowd could not make any accurate
forecasts on PNN, given they had the same opportunity, in this
thread ... ??? Maybe, they just got their count wrong again, huh?
Puhleeeeze ... it's time to give up LOOKING BACKWARDS at the
count and the man-made interpretations of lagging data ... !~!
It is now time, to work with the forward-looking God-given stuff instead,
using very specific natural laws, that NO MAN can EVER change.
yogi-in-oz said:
Hi Snake,
Given the evidence, it would certainly seem that EW counts
are waaaay too subjective .....
..... if we intend to develop some reliable trading tools, we
should surely be building upon a solid foundation of objective
natural laws ... and if those laws could not be manipulated
or changed by ANY traders, it must surely make our tools
a lot stronger ..... yes???
happy trading
paul
P.S. ..... relying on EW wave counts, as our main trading indicator,
automatically has us looking at lagging data and also ignoring
the obvious benefits of analyzing the (constant) TIME axis.
yogi-in-oz said:
Hi Snake,
Given the evidence, it would certainly seem that EW counts
are waaaay too subjective .....
..... if we intend to develop some reliable trading tools, we
should surely be building upon a solid foundation of objective
natural laws ... and if those laws could not be manipulated
or changed by ANY traders, it must surely make our tools
a lot stronger ..... yes???
happy trading
paul
P.S. ..... relying on EW wave counts, as our main trading indicator,
automatically has us looking at lagging data and also ignoring
the obvious benefits of analyzing the (constant) TIME axis.
Trade_It said:God that makes sense, Yogi totally agree with you.
Yogi what are your thoughts of Market Profile & Meta Profile? It is something that really interests me.
It's Snake Pliskin said:Thanks Yogi for your thoughts.
I'll ponder the consequences of studying EW any further. I am not biased at the moment but still considering alternative approaches particulaly leading indicators. Most say EW is objective due to the rules etc. But the practitioner may make it subjective. I notice the original work by Elliott is not what it is today.
Yogi I am exploring the time element.
Happy trading
Snake
Time is constant and therefore, it must be easier to analyze,
than the highly variable price axis ... yes???
Prior to Albert Einstein's relativistic physics, time and space had been treated as distinct dimensions; Einstein linked time and space into spacetime. He said that time was basically what a clock reads; the clock can be any action or change, like the movement of the sun."
"the standard time interval (called conventional second, or simply second) is defined as 9 192 631 770 oscillations of a hyperfine transition in the 133caesium (Cs) atom."
"
Time is what a clock reads..
Build a better clock ( a stock or market clock ) and you build better trading system...
Time is what the clocks read .
Whats important is recognizing this.. And using the right clock for our purposes..
motorway
i have to apologise to you yogi, i showed disrespect to you in dec on the adi thread..
i now am totally convinced you have something that somehow works..
i have apologised on the adi thread and i now need to urgently know the answer to my question..
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