World Population growth

[Gringotts Bank]

When exponential population growth is the cause of most of the world's problems, why is it allowed to continue at such a rate?

In the US, most babies being produced nowadays are unlikely to be healthy. (54% of American children are chronically sick (see below)... and this is a first world country). Should that be a consideration? Imagine telling a prospective parent that the odds are now in favour of their child being chronically sick in some form.

Trends continue, especially when the cause of the trend is unknown. So in 20 years when this group reaches working age... then what? Armegeddon is what.

Roads, transport and parking, food and farming, heath and healthcare, wildlife and wilderness, social cohesion, stability and peace - they all suffer massively under the effect of surging populations. More and sicker - that's the trend.

http://www.academicpedsjnl.net/article/S1876-2859(10)00250-0/abstract

Can anyone suggest a solution (other than a world war or tsunami)?

 

[SirRumpole]

When exponential population growth is the cause of most of the world's problems, why is it allowed to continue at such a rate?

In the US, most babies being produced nowadays are unlikely to be healthy. (54% of American children are chronically sick (see below)... and this is a first world country). Should that be a consideration? Imagine telling a prospective parent that the odds are now in favour of their child being chronically sick in some form.

Trends continue, especially when the cause of the trend is unknown. So in 20 years when this group reaches working age... then what? Armegeddon is what.

Roads, transport and parking, food and farming, heath and healthcare, wildlife and wilderness, social cohesion, stability and peace - they all suffer massively under the effect of surging populations.

http://www.academicpedsjnl.net/article/S1876-2859(10)00250-0/abstract

Sure but they are all little consumers for the business lobby.

 

[Gringotts Bank]

Sure but they are all little consumers for the business lobby.

Yes the business lobby wants a population bursting at the seams. And so does government. All they see is the $ sign. Too bad because it will end in disaster.

 

[finnsk]

Yes the business lobby wants a population bursting at the seams. And so does government. All they see is the $ sign. Too bad because it will end in disaster.

Can only agree with you

 

[qldfrog]

And not only government: religions too: muslims/christian war by wombs.
No nice end I am afraid.And my taxes pays a baby bonus and O/S aid..

 

[explod]

And cannot even have the comfort of euthenasia,

the medical and asociated make too much out of us oldies.

 

[Gringotts Bank]

Australia's population is adding 60 new people per hour, every hour (either arriving or being born here).

I was speaking to a town planner in Melbourne and he says infrastructure won't cope soon. He reckoned electricity and water will probably be ok, but sewrage will be the big problem. The city's sewrage system wasn't designed for millions who are on their way from OS. Roads are the other issue, obviously. Just watch the councils and state governments go into mutual blame mode when pipes start rupturing and closing off roads (adding to congestion).

Anyone who has had the misfortune of visiting a shopping centre like Chadstone or Doncaster lately will have noticed that people actually seem to go there to just walk around aimlessly. They're not actually buying or consuming services (no bags, just walking around or sitting staring into space). I couldn't wait to get out of there. They are hideous goddamn places.

Anyone here made a sea change? I'm thinking it will be necessary within a year or two. Somewhere with no shopping centres and no "good public schools" (you know why).

 

[SirRumpole]

Australia's population is adding 60 new people per hour, every hour (either arriving or being born here).

I was speaking to a town planner in Melbourne and he says infrastructure won't cope soon. He reckoned electricity and water will probably be ok, but sewrage will be the big problem. The city's sewrage system wasn't designed for millions who are on their way from OS. Roads are the other issue, obviously. Just watch the councils and state governments go into mutual blame mode when pipes start rupturing and closing off roads (adding to congestion).

Anyone who has had the misfortune of visiting a shopping centre like Chadstone or Doncaster lately will have noticed that people actually seem to go there to just walk around aimlessly. They're not actually buying or consuming services (no bags, just walking around or sitting staring into space). I couldn't wait to get out of there. They are hideous goddamn places.

Anyone here made a sea change? I'm thinking it will be necessary within a year or two. Somewhere with no shopping centres and no "good public schools" (you know why).

I made a "tree change" to a regional NSW area about 20 years ago and never regretted it. If you can put up with the cultural isolation (no movie theatres, no ice rinks, no go kart tracks, no amusement centres etc) the life is OK.

We just had a new hospital built so the services are reasonable. A couple of good schools, but be prepared for boredom. A few visits elsewhere each year is a must for keeping the brain active.

 

[Value Collector]

A couple of good schools, but be prepared for boredom. A few visits elsewhere each year is a must for keeping the brain active.

lol, a mate of mine moved to a rural area, he said the only thing that kept him sane was the fact he joined a good local footy team and he had a hot wife, without those two things all that was left was drinking at the pub.

 

[SirRumpole]

lol, a mate of mine moved to a rural area, he said the only thing that kept him sane was the fact he joined a good local footy team and he had a hot wife, without those two things all that was left was drinking at the pub.

Sad but true. If you don't like footy then don't expect inspiration in a rural area, and there aren't a lot of "hotties" out here either for those who haven't already got one.

 

[luutzu]

Sad but true. If you don't like footy then don't expect inspiration in a rural area, and there aren't a lot of "hotties" out here either for those who haven't already got one.

"Hotties" is relative right? Also correlate with alcohol consumption

 

[orr]

lol, a mate of mine moved to a rural area, he said the only thing that kept him sane was the fact he joined a good local footy team and he had a hot wife, without those two things all that was left was drinking at the pub.

And the fishing and the shooting and the hang gliding and your dogs&pets and the races and river and the skiing in season and the mountains and what they offer in summer and the community and the stories and the time to think and chat with clever people and very affordable housing and bugger all traffic and the privacy and the food hanging from the trees and out of the near by paddocks and the clean air and and and .... well ....enjoy your commute.

I and mine move to one quiet regularly. To those that have the necessaries, or are will to get them positive gearing abounds.

 

[Gringotts Bank]

And the fishing and the shooting and the hang gliding and your dogs&pets and the races and river and the skiing in season and the mountains and what they offer in summer and the community and the stories and the time to think and chat with clever people and very affordable housing and bugger all traffic and the privacy and the food hanging from the trees and out of the near by paddocks and the clean air and and and .... well ....enjoy your commute.

I and mine move to one quiet regularly. To those that have the necessaries, or are will to get them positive gearing abounds.

Nice

 

[Value Collector]

And the fishing and the shooting and the hang gliding and your dogs&pets and the races and river and the skiing in season and the mountains and what they offer in summer and the community and the stories and the time to think and chat with clever people and very affordable housing and bugger all traffic and the privacy and the food hanging from the trees and out of the near by paddocks and the clean air and and and .... well ....enjoy your commute.

I and mine move to one quiet regularly. To those that have the necessaries, or are will to get them positive gearing abounds.

Yeah, I guess it all depends where you are, there are certainly some great spots, My mate's town from his reports was not that great, his wife was posted there for a teaching position, as soon as that's done they are out.

 

[Tisme]

 

[luutzu]

And Human can impact the environment... how?

 

[Tisme]

And Human can impact the environment... how?

breathing

 

[noirua]

World Population Clock
http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

Countries in the world by population (2018)
http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/

 

[basilio]

So what will happen if in fact people stopped having children in, say, 25 years time ?
Is it a crisis or simply a consequence of the way we are living and our continuing impact on the environment?
And is this fertility collapse happening across all species ?

Plummeting sperm counts, shrinking penises: toxic chemicals threaten humanity | Erin Brockovich

The chemicals to blame for our reproductive crisis are found everywhere and in everything

www.theguardian.com

 

[SirRumpole]

So what will happen if in fact people stopped having children in, say, 25 years time ?
Is it a crisis or simply a consequence of the way we are living and our continuing impact on the environment?
And is this fertility collapse happening across all species ?

Plummeting sperm counts, shrinking penises: toxic chemicals threaten humanity | Erin Brockovich

The chemicals to blame for our reproductive crisis are found everywhere and in everything

www.theguardian.com

I suspect that we have reached or surpassed our maximum level of efficiency as a species and we will decline in numbers untill a balance between population numbers and resources required is achieved.

No doubt environmental factors are involved, but so are economics. If people can't get secure well paying jobs are they really going to be interested in having kids if they can't afford a house to put them in ? On the other hand opportunities for women have increased (despite the feminist screeching otherwise) and more women are interested in careers rather than child rearing.

All of which adds up to a levelling out of the population increase in the developed world at least.

Which is a good thing imo, as long as we can afford aged care.