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That's one small step for Trump, a giant leap backwards for mankind. 
Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?
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The tub thumping in Korea will give us an idea of where we end up with Donald Trump as President of US. Thought this story analysed the situation with a bit of venom.
Ready or not, Trump may be about to face his first full-blown international crisis
On the many occasions over the past five months during which US President Donald Trump demonstrated his deep ignorance, his alarming impulsiveness, his bottomless need for praise, or his tendency to lash out when criticised, one common response has been to ask, "What happens when he faces a genuine crisis with the need to make difficult decisions and lives are at stake?"
Well it looks as if we may be about to find out.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/wor...own-international-crisis-20170705-gx5nhu.html
Ready or not, Trump may be about to face his first full-blown international crisis
- Paul Waldman
On the many occasions over the past five months during which US President Donald Trump demonstrated his deep ignorance, his alarming impulsiveness, his bottomless need for praise, or his tendency to lash out when criticised, one common response has been to ask, "What happens when he faces a genuine crisis with the need to make difficult decisions and lives are at stake?"
Well it looks as if we may be about to find out.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/wor...own-international-crisis-20170705-gx5nhu.html
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On goes the leftist group think, one must snipe at Trump to fit in.
Whatever Trump's perceived faults, at least he isn't Hillary or Obama.
Trump spoke beautifully in Poland yesterday, in front of an adoring audience, as Lech Walesa on the platform looked on. The Poles know a thing or two about oppression, about communism and fascism. Don't hold your breath waiting for Fairfax or the ABC to report this.
For the benefit of the luvvie journalists at Fairfax and the ABC, Kościuszko is also the name of Australia's highest mountain.
Whatever Trump's perceived faults, at least he isn't Hillary or Obama.
Trump spoke beautifully in Poland yesterday, in front of an adoring audience, as Lech Walesa on the platform looked on. The Poles know a thing or two about oppression, about communism and fascism. Don't hold your breath waiting for Fairfax or the ABC to report this.
For the benefit of the luvvie journalists at Fairfax and the ABC, Kościuszko is also the name of Australia's highest mountain.
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Beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder. It's funny how they booed Walesa but applauded Trump. So the "adoring audience" (LOL) with an intimate knowledge of oppression and communism boos the guy who led them from both toward democracy and cheers a reality TV star playing President.
Poland's lurching back toward being undemocratic led by the same people who were cheering on Trump. Short memory I'd say.
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If you hadn't noticed McL, plenty of people are booing Malcolm Turnbull these days too.
Some Poles booed Waleas, a Nobel Peace Prize winner (just like Obama..snap!), because in latter days his style became too abrupt, too internally divisive and too centralist. The Poles do not want to risk further progress in pursuit of their freedoms and an open democracy.
Some Poles booed Waleas, a Nobel Peace Prize winner (just like Obama..snap!), because in latter days his style became too abrupt, too internally divisive and too centralist. The Poles do not want to risk further progress in pursuit of their freedoms and an open democracy.
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"Whatever Trump's perceived faults, at least he isn't Hillary or Obama." Logique.
Fascinating. We have one of the most corrupt, abusive, thin skinned, person to ever become Prez and you reckon at least he isn't Hilary or Obama.
Well neither was Attila the Hun or Joe Stalin. Should be dig them up and put them in charge because they aren't Hilary or Obama?
A rapturous reception in Poland. Perhaps because truckloads of people were bused in swell the ranks of the rapturous? Perhaps because the Law and Justice Party is somewhere to the right of Trump himself is busily doing all the things Trump can only dream of ( Controlling the Press for a start).
SStart polishing your jack boots Logique.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40497732
Fascinating. We have one of the most corrupt, abusive, thin skinned, person to ever become Prez and you reckon at least he isn't Hilary or Obama.
Well neither was Attila the Hun or Joe Stalin. Should be dig them up and put them in charge because they aren't Hilary or Obama?
A rapturous reception in Poland. Perhaps because truckloads of people were bused in swell the ranks of the rapturous? Perhaps because the Law and Justice Party is somewhere to the right of Trump himself is busily doing all the things Trump can only dream of ( Controlling the Press for a start).
SStart polishing your jack boots Logique.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40497732
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The President - Ronald Reagan
The Pope - Pope John Paul II
The Prime Minister - Margaret Thatcher
How they changed the world.
The Pope - Pope John Paul II
The Prime Minister - Margaret Thatcher
How they changed the world.
Clintons are dirtball insiders. Trumps a dirtball outsider.
Calling someone out for being a fascist while the Democrats supporters display worse behavior is telling. Do democrats really believe they are saving the world.
CNN should be burnt to the ground for what they did. When did 'freedom of the press' include freedom to commit crime.
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Bas, give President Trump a chance. I refute your claim of jack boots.
Presidents Trump and Putin seem to be getting along famously. A brief meeting ancillary to the G20 this morning stretched to 2hrs:20min, and defied several attempts by aides to cut it short.
It is not known whether President Trump requested a contribution to the Clinton Foundation. Nor to my knowledge is Trump running state business through a private web server.
But aside from this, isn't it international co-operation a good thing in the face of a maverick state like North Korea?
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Cheers Tink, can't argue with that, great leaders all.
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That's Lech Walesa, and I'm embarrassed by my typo. But Walesa was there on the podium, along with the rest. He remains a national hero of Poland.
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If you like the world the 99% has been living in since the 80s, then praise Reagan and Thatcher.
If it's not so great, blame it on them.
Reagan I can understand because he's just an idiot actor playing the role of president. Thatcher I thought would be smarter... so maybe she screw over her own poor working class slobs for entertainment (and profits to her masters).
I like how Pope John Paul II does not permit the use of condoms or contraception to prevent the spread of HIV and AIDS, particular in poor third world countries where the Church under him were not permitted to go against God's hatred for non-skin on skin contact.
Probably killed a few million people with that kind of bs.
Great to see the current Pope permit the use of condoms and contraception to regions affected by the Zika Virus.
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I take it you haven't been up to date on the news since Trump's inauguration?
Fair enough he banned Muslims and refugees, hates Blacks, Mexicans, loathe the planet and don't care for clean air or potable water... but to kick another 24 million poor Americans out of healthcare; gut some $800Billions from medicare to seniors and kids; give at least $500B to the richest 1% of Americans... and "have no plan" to tax the rich to help pay for all those tax cuts to "the middle class".
Yup, give him a chance. He might start grabbing 'em by hands once he's tired of grabbing them by the throat.
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We don't seem to hear much about "the wall" these days. I wonder if that was the first goofy idea of his to fall flat.
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As I have said, Luutzu, our country was built on our Christian values and traditions.
As was stated --
Trump spoke in Krasinski Square, in a city entirely rebuilt after WWII, in front of a monument to 200,000 Poles killed in the heroic Warsaw uprising against the Nazis in 1944, as described in Norman Davies’ Rising ‘44. A secret pact between Hitler and Stalin saw Poland invaded by Nazi Germany from the west and the Soviet Union from the east, and then the Allies betrayed Poland to appease Stalin.
The defeat of Hitler only plunged the Poles into nearly 50 years of Communist oppression.
But with the help of their own saint, Pope John Paul II, Trump said “the Poles reasserted their identity as a nation devoted to God.
The story of Poland is the story of a people who have never lost hope, who have never been broken and who have never, ever forgotten who they are.
“And when the day came on June 2nd, 1979, and 1 million Poles gathered around Victory Square for their very first mass with their Polish pope, that day every Communist in Warsaw must have known that their oppressive system would soon come crashing down.
“They must have known it at the exact moment during Pope John Paul II’s sermon when a million Polish men, women and children suddenly raised their voices in a single prayer. A million Polish people did not ask for wealth. They did not ask for privilege.
Instead, one million Poles saying three simple words: ‘We want God….’ And with that powerful declaration of who you are, you came to understand what to do and how to live.”
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“The preciousness and equal worth of every human life is a Christian idea.”
Despite the common belief that secular statehood, equality of opportunity, individual rights and limited government are modern creations, all took root in Christian scripture. Christ embodied a revolution against the social order of His day by recognising the worth of human beings was not dictated by bloodlines, wealth or race.
Rather, each human being had inherent worth by virtue of being created by God in His image. The idea of inherent human worth gave rise to the concept that each of us is born equal yet with an individual purpose. The balance between equality and individuality was set in scripture. Equality of opportunity (as we now call it), is necessary to manifest our unique God-given talents.
The idea of inherent human worth forms the basis of modern democracy in which the citizen rules the state, not the reverse. But the full development of the citizen was enabled by another feature of Western civilisation.
“Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s: and to God, the things that are God’s” (Matthew 22:21).
Christianity thus provides the ultimate defence against totalitarianism: the limited state.
The core values of Western society are intrinsically Christian.
As was stated --
Trump spoke in Krasinski Square, in a city entirely rebuilt after WWII, in front of a monument to 200,000 Poles killed in the heroic Warsaw uprising against the Nazis in 1944, as described in Norman Davies’ Rising ‘44. A secret pact between Hitler and Stalin saw Poland invaded by Nazi Germany from the west and the Soviet Union from the east, and then the Allies betrayed Poland to appease Stalin.
The defeat of Hitler only plunged the Poles into nearly 50 years of Communist oppression.
But with the help of their own saint, Pope John Paul II, Trump said “the Poles reasserted their identity as a nation devoted to God.
The story of Poland is the story of a people who have never lost hope, who have never been broken and who have never, ever forgotten who they are.
“And when the day came on June 2nd, 1979, and 1 million Poles gathered around Victory Square for their very first mass with their Polish pope, that day every Communist in Warsaw must have known that their oppressive system would soon come crashing down.
“They must have known it at the exact moment during Pope John Paul II’s sermon when a million Polish men, women and children suddenly raised their voices in a single prayer. A million Polish people did not ask for wealth. They did not ask for privilege.
Instead, one million Poles saying three simple words: ‘We want God….’ And with that powerful declaration of who you are, you came to understand what to do and how to live.”
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“The preciousness and equal worth of every human life is a Christian idea.”
Despite the common belief that secular statehood, equality of opportunity, individual rights and limited government are modern creations, all took root in Christian scripture. Christ embodied a revolution against the social order of His day by recognising the worth of human beings was not dictated by bloodlines, wealth or race.
Rather, each human being had inherent worth by virtue of being created by God in His image. The idea of inherent human worth gave rise to the concept that each of us is born equal yet with an individual purpose. The balance between equality and individuality was set in scripture. Equality of opportunity (as we now call it), is necessary to manifest our unique God-given talents.
The idea of inherent human worth forms the basis of modern democracy in which the citizen rules the state, not the reverse. But the full development of the citizen was enabled by another feature of Western civilisation.
“Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s: and to God, the things that are God’s” (Matthew 22:21).
Christianity thus provides the ultimate defence against totalitarianism: the limited state.
The core values of Western society are intrinsically Christian.
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Recently he had a genius idea to cover The Wall in solar panels (clearly not his idea)......that seems inconsistent with his philosophy of time travelling back to 1955 and producing all energy using oil & coal.
* this guy talks like he is in high school.
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Ran out of cash. Only had some $20M to start drafting up a rough plan, and Ivanka or Jr. probably took half of it for consultation or something
That and he was thinking that they ought to put solar panels to help the wall pay for itself. Then probably figured a few minutes later that that'll further balloon the budget by about half, and payback period will be a century or two if we go by how the great Aussie power companies sells at 22c but buy the same crap at 7c.
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Honestly, you think a guy like Trump believe in God or "Christian value" and stuff?
He's one of those psychos that preaches faith, God, goodness, beautiful babies... then on the other corner of his mouth, order sanctions that will starve and choke the poorest of people, threaten nuclear war that could end life on earth, kick millions of "his" own people off of health insurance.
There are good and moral Christians, no doubt about that. There are also good and moral teachings in those Christian Holy Books too. Just we shouldn't mixed that with the psychotic tendencies of those who claim to uphold those values, believe in every word of that book.
The Christian who enslave Africans believe all Man are created equal? We're all the same? We're all God's children? That's why they literally enshrine in their law that blacks are half as equal as the whites?
Women have it a bit better than the savages though... they're about 3/4th the worth of a man. And because they can't think for themselves, they sholdn't be allowed to vote as that would only advantage married men.
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Now I have to say there seems to be a lot of tautology there.
As I understood it in 1980 the Queen made a visit to the old fella in Rome to lay down the ground rules of the Empire. Likewise she had Thatcher take over the USA policy and directives through Nancy and Ronald. Never underestimate the illuminati and the masons.
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He's not too phased knowing he has the backing of the Rothschilds. So when it comes to Putin......
https://geopolitics.co/2015/12/25/im-going-to-defeat-the-illuminati-with-my-bare-hands-putin-2016/
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