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moXJO said:
If someone is really interested in the topic you look at all sides.

As far as tax goes most large companies or rich individuals don't pay tax. Remember kerry Packer?
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I am total neutral on this subject. Just find it interesting that so many people support a president that lies so much, avoids the truth, will not be transparent.

As for companies and the rich not paying taxes, I don't care who they are, they are all bad people.
 
So,

I pointed out three characteristics of a good president.
2. Was Integrity - Donald will not discuss or provide his tax returns, passes the blame.
Biden " The Bidens paid about $3.7 million and $1.5 in taxes for 2017 and 2018 "

Again not for either candidate, but at least one is showing integrity and transparency.
 
satanoperca said:
So,

I pointed out three characteristics of a good president.
2. Was Integrity - Donald will not discuss or provide his tax returns, passes the blame.
Biden " The Bidens paid about $3.7 million and $1.5 in taxes for 2017 and 2018 "

Again not for either candidate, but at least one is showing integrity and transparency.
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Biden is a career politician. Different metrics. They have very polished PR staff that are tapped into what looks good or bad. Trump is the worst at acting like a politician I have ever seen. I would say Trump is completely transparent as everyone knows he is a shtbag. Biden however hides it well. But his secret service staff say that Biden and Hillary are the two that are the worst to work for. Where as Trump and Obama are considered the best as they treat them well.


I'm not sure paying tax is a sign of integrity. There are plenty of drug dealers that pay tax after they wash it.
 
moJXO,

You and Trump would get along well, both fail to debate or provide answers to simple questions, wasting my time.

You believe in a lier, who has no integrity, honesty or values except himself.

Time is always a wonderful teller of truth.
 
satanoperca said:
moJXO,

You and Trump would get along well, both fail to debate or provide answers to simple questions, wasting my time.

You believe in a lier, who has no integrity, honesty or values except himself.

Time is always a wonderful teller of truth.
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Hard day huh?
 
satanoperca said:
moJXO,

You and Trump would get along well, both fail to debate or provide answers to simple questions, wasting my time.

You believe in a lier, who has no integrity, honesty or values except himself.

Time is always a wonderful teller of truth.
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Ill give what I expect. Personally I think your above qualities are seriously fairy tale stuff in a leader these days. Anyway:

Does their best to do what they promised during the election.

Is not sidetracked by criticism (many revert to paralysis).

Makes hard decisions with future benefit in mind.

You are actually wasting my time by the way. You didn't debate anything either. Feelings are hardly debating...
 
" Ill give what I expect. Personally I think your above qualities are seriously fairy tale stuff in a leader these days. Anyway: "

What a sad comment, I hope it is not shared by the majority of society.

Mojxo, have a nice life, I am too old, seen too much, same old same old to get involved anymore, tried with some simple questions for discussion.
 
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The ‘Trump Doctrine’ earns President third Nobel Peace Prize nomination | Sky News Australia

Eminent law professor David Flint is among four Australian law professors who are nominating US President Donald Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize on the basis of the “Trump Doctrine”. Only members of a national parliament or law professors are able to nominate others for the Nobel Peace Prize...
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The ‘Trump Doctrine’ earns President third Nobel Peace Prize nomination


Eminent law professor David Flint is among four Australian law professors who are nominating US President Donald Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize on the basis of the “Trump Doctrine”.
Only members of a national parliament or law professors are able to nominate others for the Nobel Peace Prize with President Trump already receiving two nominations for his promotion of peace in the Middle-East. President Trump recently brokered an historic peace deal between the United Arab Emirates and Israel, which aimed to normalise diplomatic relations.
This unprecedented deal was closely followed by a similar peace agreement between Bahrain and Israel. "He went ahaead and negotiated against all advice, but he did it with common sense. He negotiated directly with the Arab states concerned and Israel and brought them together," Professor Flint said.
Professor Flint told Sky News host Alan Jones the Trump Doctrine is “something extraordinary” and is emblematic of the two things which guide the president. “He has, firstly, common sense, and he is only guided by national interest … and therefore an interest in the western alliance” he said.
“What he has done with the Trump Doctrine is that he has decided he would no longer have America in endless wars, wars which achieve nothing but the killing of thousands of young Americans. "So he's reducing America's tendency to get involved in any and every war. "The states are lining up, Arab and Middle-Eastern, to join that network of peace which will dominate the Middle-East. "He is really producing peace in the world in a way in a which none of his predecessors did, and he fully deserves the Nobel Peace Prize."
 
"He is really producing peace in the world in a way in a which none of his predecessors did, and he fully deserves the Nobel Peace Prize."

All the communists and people with DTS will be spewing.
 
The deals with Israel is more about a the weakening influence of the USA, though the Trump desire to avoid using American power has played a part, creating a vacuum that must be filled.

The small players have lost.
The Arab monarchys have decided to let Israel do what they will with the Palestinians and consider this worth it to form an alliance against Iran who in turn is making an alliance with China.

The Russian win with Syria means that Turkey and Iraq will want to be at least be partially allied with Russia and also completely destroy the Kurds who were betrayed.

Yemen will be destroyed in effect also.

Now that oil is less important, the region will need to stabilise so power can be retained. I can't see Biden reversing this unless he makes a deal with Iran to stop them letting the Chinese build a military base.
 
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Nation Repents And Asks For God’s Mercy After Watching The Presidential Debate
September 30th, 2020
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U.S.— Following Tuesday night’s presidential debate, the entire nation has humbled themselves before the Lord and asked for His mercy.

“After seeing that train wreck of a debate, I immediately fell down on my knees and asked God to forgive us all!” said concerned patriot Anthony Harb.
Knowing that the nation’s destiny lies with one of these two men, many became fearful of God’s imminent wrath and judgment against America. “If this is the best we have to offer, then we are all doomed!”
Many people tore their clothes in response to the disastrous debate. “We’re ruined. God will surely judge us and destroy us all after that!”
Across the nation, the people wept and begged for mercy from the Lord. “Please don’t wipe us out!” they cried. “We turn from our sin and ask that You deliver us from this!”
 
Debate was a shtshow. Trump went with a terrible strategy (scorched earth) that missed by a mile. Biden was caught in numerous lies that Trump could of countered. But instead he kept interrupting so much that it became to hard to listen to the points made. Instead it ended up getting lost in the trainwreck spectacle of it all. It seemed designed to appeal to the hard-core base and less about the swing votes. And worse was Biden did not lock up or freeze under pressure like they were expecting.

Biden did well enough to jump over the very low bar that was set for him.
I'm still betting on a Biden win at this point. Trump lost swing voters after that performance.
If Joes team was smart they would skip the rest of the debates.
 
Views from a panel of independent voters viewing the debate with Frank Luntz

What pushed some over the edge
The roughly four voters who ended the night in Biden’s corner were stunned by Trump’s performance. Ruthie, a voter from Pennsylvania, described it as trying to “win an argument with a crackhead.”

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Undecided voters call Trump ‘unhinged’ and ‘un-American’ — but are unswayed by debate

“You just saw 90 minutes. How can you still be undecided?” veteran GOP pollster Frank Luntz told a virtual focus group.
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In which universe does Donald Trump get away with saying "I don't know who the Proud Boys are ?"

 
satanoperca said:
Some fact checking, love facts, cuts through b.....t.

www.bbc.com

Presidential debate: Trump and Biden's claims fact-checked

The first of three presidential debates centred on the pandemic, race and the economy.
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He is simply a liar.
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Which one...
They both lied.

That is possibly the weakest fact check I've seen by the way.

Biden only said "predator". Give me a break. It was the policies and those that he supported that was the issue.
 
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