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IFocus said:
Mo please there is no such thing as a Marxist in any sort of position of power in the US FFS you have to raise a moxsa just to get elected, guess what that aint Marxist.

No one and I mean no one supports a left wing agenda in the US.

Democrats are not repeat are not left wing they either are or supported by billionaires FFS.

Simple test......whats the wealth disparity in the US? is it getting bigger? Is it the greatest ever transfer of wealth in history?

Really the world has gone mad and completely stupid.

How do I know this.......Trump supporters making up excuses.
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When I want to think of a Marxist country with high distribution of taxes, free healthcare, free education, strong unions, government housing, I think of Sweden. What a hell hole.

Hopefully the Democrats won't be able to modify any of those things in the best managed country in the world due to the best President, as he says himself, since Abraham Lincoln.

There is a reason the USA people are known worldwide as the happiest nation on earth.
 
Sweden is not Marxist, it is a social democracy. BIIIIIIIIIG difference.

That would be like comparing Thatcher's Britain to Nazism.

Have you actually read Das Capital or his other book, which name escapes me for the moment?

This is a critical error in likening mixed economies, ie Capitalist economies with strong social programs, to socialism or communism. It ain't the same.

Karl Marx said, 'The last capitalist we hang shall be the one who sold us the rope.

It that your vision of utopia @Knobby22
 
I'm a capitalist in every way.
But you were saying
wayneL said:
Sweden is not Marxist, it is a social democracy. BIIIIIIIIIG difference.

That would be like comparing Thatcher's Britain to Nazism.

Have you actually read Das Capital or his other book, which name escapes me for the moment?

This is a critical error in likening mixed economies, ie Capitalist economies with strong social programs, to socialism or communism. It ain't the same.

Karl Marx said, 'The last capitalist we hang shall be the one who sold us the rope.

It that your vision of utopia @Knobby22
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I am a capitalist in every way and think that Swedens model, though it works in Sweden as part of Europe and as a small country cannot be translated to Australia or the USA.

But you are exactly right, Sweden is a socialist democracy.
So why if someone like Bernie espouses similar policies he is somehow a Marxist?
Its the same mental leap as comparing Thatcher's Britain to Nazism and just as facetious.
 
Bernie would get short shrift if he came out espousing nationalizing all industry and revoking property rights. I don't know whether he is actually a Marxist in the true sense, many people seem to think that that is his ultimate ideology.

However my answer to Ifocus was about there being no leftist politicians in the US not that they are necessarily marxists.

I do believe there is a substantive Marxist movement in the United States though.
 
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Knobby22 said:
Yes, China will have us for dinner.
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Actually if you look at the demise of our manufacturing (which has outsourced to China) and the amount of time we worry about them not buying our cheap resources, they have already had the main course.
I actually don't see continuing to beg and scrape to them, while being on hands and knees, is a very good long term policy.:roflmao:
The way we are just about giving them our resources, tends to make us look like the Chinese dependant welfare nation of Asia IMO.
It amazes me how well it sits with people, but I guess it fits with our general behaviour, welfare is a life choice and held up as something to aspire to in Aus.:xyxthumbs
 
sptrawler said:
Actually if you look at the demise of our manufacturing (which has outsourced to China) and the amount of time we worry about them not buying our cheap resources, they have already had the main course.
I actually don't see continuing to beg and scrape to them, while being on hands and knees, is a very good long term policy.:roflmao:
The way we are just about giving them our resources, tends to make us look like the Chinese dependant welfare nation of Asia IMO.
It amazes me how well it sits with people, but I guess it fits with our general behaviour, welfare is a life choice and held up as something to aspire to in Aus.:xyxthumbs:xyxthumbs
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I have been saying for 20 years that we have been handing economic hegomony to China on a silver platter. Most people always agreed, but here we are.

We are getting everything we deserve.
 
wayneL said:
I have been saying for 20 years that we have been handing economic hegomony to China on a silver platter. Most people always agreed, but here we are.

We are getting everything we deserve.
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Absolutely, the companies are getting richer, the poor are getting their welfare, the fire that feeds it (resources) is slowly dimming.
But all is good in the World.;)
The only person who has taken China to task, is sytematically getting torn down by the multinationals, so that the plebs can continue to be wooed down the path.:D
China is playing the long game and achieving it through feeding people's personal greed and inherent laziness IMO.
As you say we are getting what we deserve.
 
IFocus said:
Mo please there is no such thing as a Marxist in any sort of position of power in the US FFS you have to raise a moxsa just to get elected, guess what that aint Marxist.

No one and I mean no one supports a left wing agenda in the US.

Democrats are not repeat are not left wing they either are or supported by billionaires FFS.

Simple test......whats the wealth disparity in the US? is it getting bigger? Is it the greatest ever transfer of wealth in history?

Really the world has gone mad and completely stupid.

How do I know this.......Trump supporters making up excuses.
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Um Bill de blasio is another on top of wayneL picks. Mayor of ny. Look at his past before he changed his name.
Then you have those that support those who are violently rioting. Look at the base. I get sick of having to draw a line to those who surface skim.

You better check the new breed of Democrats as well. The old guard is dead. But I agree that the dems were using the left for votes. Doesn't mean we don’t have radicals in every field now after all the pandering.

Dems shot themselves in the foot after the base they created took them prisoner to their growing extremism.
 
Knobby22 said:
I'm a capitalist in every way.
But you were saying


I am a capitalist in every way and think that Swedens model, though it works in Sweden as part of Europe and as a small country cannot be translated to Australia or the USA.

But you are exactly right, Sweden is a socialist democracy.
So why if someone like Bernie espouses similar policies he is somehow a Marxist?
Its the same mental leap as comparing Thatcher's Britain to Nazism and just as facetious.
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Its the base you attract.
 
basilio said:
So overall, despite everything you have seen of the Trump administration, despite the way they have (not) handled the COVID 19 crisis, despite how they have openly supported some of the most aggressive right wing regimes and organisations around the world and at home, despite how they have attacked and undermined democratic European democracies..

...you believe they are a better alternative to the Democrats and better than President Obama.
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Did you actually look at Obama beyond his speeches?
He not only destroyed the US and weakened its position, he broke the world through his weak leadership. Did nothing for blacks either.

He goes down as one of the worst.
 
No matter how much leftist cities slide you lot will continue to ignore it. The rioters have started moving into residential zones and home owners are starting to defend with weapons.

Yep, keep supporting it though. Its going great so far.
 
Knobby22 said:
When I want to think of a Marxist country with high distribution of taxes, free healthcare, free education, strong unions, government housing, I think of Sweden. What a hell hole.

Hopefully the Democrats won't be able to modify any of those things in the best managed country in the world due to the best President, as he says himself, since Abraham Lincoln.

There is a reason the USA people are known worldwide as the happiest nation on earth.
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Just in case no one picked up on your sarcasm Knobby, here is the world happiness index.

https://worldhappiness.report/news/...-keeps-top-spot-as-happiest-country-in-world/
 
Trump Outlines Plans For Second Season

In a rousing speech at the Republican National Convention, Donald Trump said he was confident the Trump Presidency would be renewed for a second season, outlining a proposal for new storylines which he believes will keep the American glued to their television screens.

Pointing to ratings figures which he said were higher than any other president, Trump said season two would be even bigger and better. “Nobody’s ever seen anything like it,” he said.

Season one, which included a pandemic, race riots, an impeachment, the dismantling of a dozen democratic institutions and most of the main characters being arrested on criminal charges, was criticised for being unrealistic and over the top.

But Trump said the drama would intensify in season two. “There will be a lot of great stories, believe me. The White Lives Matter protests in episode 5 is one that I’m particularly looking forward to”.

Seasons three and four are also slated for production.
https://www.theshovel.com.au/2020/08/25/trump-outlines-plans-for-second-season/
 
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