Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

wayneL said:

The Atlantic is a joke

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wayneL said:

How do you think I know it's a joke if I don't read it bas?

Yet another mistake in logic from you.

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basilio said:

Bit of fun with the funereal of George Bush.

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sptrawler said:

Trump seems to be trying to force companies to manufacture in the U.S, instead of offshoring to cheap labour Countries.
The posters on here, who bag him, seem to want the same thing.
IMO it just shows how easily people's reasoning is manipulated by the media.
Just my opinion and I personally don't give a rat's ar$e about American politics.

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luutzu said:

He appear to be doing it, but like most things he does, it's just full of crap.

He doesn't care where things are made. He only say he cares. I mean, his Trump branded stuff are made overseas, no in 'merka. Even the banners and posters for his 2020 campaign are made in China.

GM just closed a few plants in the US of A. Right after his son in law, and boy hidden genius, made a deal with Canada and Mexico.

Now, if he gives a damn about American workers, he's a really bad deal maker if right after he signed the "free trade" deal GM shut up shop, fired some 15,000 yanks and move to Mexico.

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sptrawler said:

And everyone else was different?
The media has a lot to answer for. IMO
The World is full of Muppets, but I probably lead the brigade. Lol

We just need it to go back to how it was pre Trump, it was so much better then. Lol

Everyone was on the slide, but we were hugging each other, and telling each other it will get better.
Great plot for a movie.

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• “But the crimes committed by Cohen were more serious than his submission allows and were marked by a pattern of deception that permeated his professional life (and was evidently hidden from the friends and family members who wrote on his behalf).”
• “He was motivated ... by personal greed, and repeatedly used his power and influence for deceptive ends. Now he seeks extraordinary leniency – a sentence of no jail time – based principally on his rose-colored view of the seriousness of the crimes; his claims to a sympathetic personal history; and his provision of certain information to law enforcement.”
  
• “While Cohen – as his own submission makes clear – already enjoyed a privileged life, his desire for even greater wealth and influence precipitated an extensive course of criminal conduct.”
• “While many Americans who desired a particular outcome to the election knocked on doors, toiled at phone banks, or found any number of other legal ways to make their voices heard, Cohen sought to influence the election from the shadows. He did so by orchestrating secret and illegal payments to silence two women who otherwise would have made public their alleged extramarital affairs with Individual-1 [Trump].”
• “Cohen clouded a process that Congress has painstakingly sought to keep transparent. The sentence imposed should reflect the seriousness of Cohen’s brazen violations of the election laws and attempt to counter the public cynicism that may arise when individuals like Cohen act as if the political process belongs to the rich and powerful.”
• “Cohen’s submission suggests that this was but a brief error in judgment. Not so. Cohen knew exactly where the line was, and he chose deliberately and repeatedly to cross it.”
• “After cheating the IRS for years, lying to banks and to Congress, and seeking to criminally influence the Presidential election, Cohen’s decision to plead guilty – rather than seek a pardon for his manifold crimes – does not make him a hero.”

Darc Knight said:

Never underestimate Donald Trump Bas.
You've watched Silence of the Lambs etc. Take away the murdering and the cannibalism etc and you have a similar evil genius.

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basilio said:

Absolutely not DK. That is why I posted the article from the Atlantic which examined what Donald Trump could do if he called a State of Emergency.

I believe there is nothing he wouldn't do to save his skin. He has trashed every Presidential protocol to date. There is nothing left to lose if he is in Checkmate by sweeping off the board and declaring he is the Winner.

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basilio said:

Clear eyed and hard edged Luu. Very uncomfortable ..

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Darc Knight said:

" Asked how his relationship with Mr Trump had gone off the rails, Mr Tillerson said it might have reflected what he saw as his obligation to tell the President that he could not do certain things because they were illegal or would violate US treaties.

"I'd have to say to him, well Mr President, I understand what you want to do, but you can't do it that way. It violates the law, it violates treaty … you know, he got really frustrated."

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/trump-opens-fire-on-dumb-as-a-rock-rex-tillerson/10596638

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