Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[basilio]

The Atlantic is a joke

Ah. Yet another publication Wayne will refuse to read. What a surprise.

The megalomaniac in the White House openly admires and leads the biggest string of bully boys around the world and yet Wayne dismisses an analysis that examines how he could pull a State of Emergency and basically do what he wants. Nothing to see here.

 

[basilio]

More coups in the US.

Republicans are staging mini-coups across the US
Lawrence Douglas

An 11th-hour tactic in Wisconsin is an attack on progressive causes and the integrity of the electoral process
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ublicans-are-staging-mini-coups-across-the-us


North Carolina election still undecided amid absentee ballot fraud inquiry
The state board of elections has refused to certify the Republican candidate’s narrow victory in the ninth congressional district

The executive director of the North Carolina Republican Party says he’s open to a new election if allegations of absentee ballot fraud in the state’s ninth Congressional district prove true.


“This has shaken us to the core,” executive director Dallas Woodhouse told CNN.


He said he was so upset after watching coverage of the controversy that he threw up.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...-still-undecided-amid-absentee-ballot-inquiry

 

[wayneL]

How do you think I know it's a joke if I don't read it bas?

Yet another mistake in logic from you.

 

[basilio]

How do you think I know it's a joke if I don't read it bas?

Yet another mistake in logic from you.

Ah The Joker awakes.
Logic is wasted on you Wayne. You can't see it. You don't use it. You repeatedly deny it.
It's just a word you throw around for a good look.

 

[wayneL]

We should get on twitter so you can get even more childish bas. What your handle there?

 

[Knobby22]

 

[basilio]

Bit of fun with the funereal of George Bush.

 

[luutzu]

Bit of fun with the funereal of George Bush.

This one's also funny.

 

[sptrawler]

Trump seems to be trying to force companies to manufacture in the U.S, instead of offshoring to cheap labour Countries.
The posters on here, who bag him, seem to want the same thing.
IMO it just shows how easily people's reasoning is manipulated by the media.
Just my opinion and I personally don't give a rat's ar$e about American politics.

 

[luutzu]

Trump seems to be trying to force companies to manufacture in the U.S, instead of offshoring to cheap labour Countries.
The posters on here, who bag him, seem to want the same thing.
IMO it just shows how easily people's reasoning is manipulated by the media.
Just my opinion and I personally don't give a rat's ar$e about American politics.

He appear to be doing it, but like most things he does, it's just full of crap.

He doesn't care where things are made. He only say he cares. I mean, his Trump branded stuff are made overseas, no in 'merka. Even the banners and posters for his 2020 campaign are made in China.

GM just closed a few plants in the US of A. Right after his son in law, and boy hidden genius, made a deal with Canada and Mexico.

Now, if he gives a damn about American workers, he's a really bad deal maker if right after he signed the "free trade" deal GM shut up shop, fired some 15,000 yanks and move to Mexico.

 

[sptrawler]

He appear to be doing it, but like most things he does, it's just full of crap.

He doesn't care where things are made. He only say he cares. I mean, his Trump branded stuff are made overseas, no in 'merka. Even the banners and posters for his 2020 campaign are made in China.

GM just closed a few plants in the US of A. Right after his son in law, and boy hidden genius, made a deal with Canada and Mexico.

Now, if he gives a damn about American workers, he's a really bad deal maker if right after he signed the "free trade" deal GM shut up shop, fired some 15,000 yanks and move to Mexico.

And everyone else was different?
The media has a lot to answer for. IMO
The World is full of Muppets, but I probably lead the brigade. Lol

We just need it to go back to how it was pre Trump, it was so much better then. Lol

Everyone was on the slide, but we were hugging each other, and telling each other it will get better.
Great plot for a movie.

 

[luutzu]

And everyone else was different?
The media has a lot to answer for. IMO
The World is full of Muppets, but I probably lead the brigade. Lol

We just need it to go back to how it was pre Trump, it was so much better then. Lol

Everyone was on the slide, but we were hugging each other, and telling each other it will get better.
Great plot for a movie.

Yes, yes. They are at how they were under the other presidents. We non-Yanks aren't though. See how rude Trump is to our governors, and other governors of other US colonies around the world?

The mark of a great leader is to talk bs out of both of their mouth. Trump could talk out of only one side, badly.

See how Obama started droning the crap out of every suspect all over the world? Nobel Peace Prize winner that one. Cracking jokes about boys dating his daughters oughta be careful, he got drones.

See how Bush Jr. started rendition, up the CIA black op sites? Torture and imprison people without charge for years or decade? "We torture some folks".. [sombre look]... There's some really bad guys at Guantanamo, maybe some innocent guy... ah fark it, let's lock them all up anyway 'cause I don't want to deal with it. Constitutional scholar, everybody.

What did Trump do? The same. But he added... let's also kill their families. You don't say that Donald! (and we kinda kid that with drones anyway... killing their family, relatives, the neighbourhood, their dogs too).

Or Billy Clinton... privatise prisons; three strikes rule putting drug pushers and petty criminals into prison for years and years; gutted social welfare programmes that pay a few bucks to mainly poor starving kids and seniors. Gotta show them the dignity of work; keeping our welfare system honest blah blah.

I could go on but meh... let's watching the weekend's protest in France.

 

[basilio]

Clear eyed and hard edged Luu. Very uncomfortable ..

 

[basilio]

The chess board is looking stark for Donald Trump. More fall out from Cohen and Manifort testimony . More outright lies from the Liar-in-Chief denying the testimonial drops him deeper in the merde.

09:34
Cohen sentencing memo: key quotes


Some key quotes from the Cohen sentencing memo, filed by federal prosecutors in New York:

• “But the crimes committed by Cohen were more serious than his submission allows and were marked by a pattern of deception that permeated his professional life (and was evidently hidden from the friends and family members who wrote on his behalf).”
• “He was motivated ... by personal greed, and repeatedly used his power and influence for deceptive ends. Now he seeks extraordinary leniency – a sentence of no jail time – based principally on his rose-colored view of the seriousness of the crimes; his claims to a sympathetic personal history; and his provision of certain information to law enforcement.”
  
• “While Cohen – as his own submission makes clear – already enjoyed a privileged life, his desire for even greater wealth and influence precipitated an extensive course of criminal conduct.”
• “While many Americans who desired a particular outcome to the election knocked on doors, toiled at phone banks, or found any number of other legal ways to make their voices heard, Cohen sought to influence the election from the shadows. He did so by orchestrating secret and illegal payments to silence two women who otherwise would have made public their alleged extramarital affairs with Individual-1 [Trump].”
• “Cohen clouded a process that Congress has painstakingly sought to keep transparent. The sentence imposed should reflect the seriousness of Cohen’s brazen violations of the election laws and attempt to counter the public cynicism that may arise when individuals like Cohen act as if the political process belongs to the rich and powerful.”
• “Cohen’s submission suggests that this was but a brief error in judgment. Not so. Cohen knew exactly where the line was, and he chose deliberately and repeatedly to cross it.”
• “After cheating the IRS for years, lying to banks and to Congress, and seeking to criminally influence the Presidential election, Cohen’s decision to plead guilty – rather than seek a pardon for his manifold crimes – does not make him a hero.”

More details here:

Cohen made contact with Russian to set up Trump-Putin meeting, Mueller reveals
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...pdates-russia-investigation-us-politics-today

 

[Darc Knight]

Never underestimate Donald Trump Bas.
You've watched Silence of the Lambs etc. Take away the murdering and the cannibalism etc and you have a similar evil genius.

 

[basilio]

Never underestimate Donald Trump Bas.
You've watched Silence of the Lambs etc. Take away the murdering and the cannibalism etc and you have a similar evil genius.

Absolutely not DK. That is why I posted the article from the Atlantic which examined what Donald Trump could do if he called a State of Emergency.

I believe there is nothing he wouldn't do to save his skin. He has trashed every Presidential protocol to date. There is nothing left to lose if he is in Checkmate by sweeping off the board and declaring he is the Winner.

 

[bellenuit]

Absolutely not DK. That is why I posted the article from the Atlantic which examined what Donald Trump could do if he called a State of Emergency.

I believe there is nothing he wouldn't do to save his skin. He has trashed every Presidential protocol to date. There is nothing left to lose if he is in Checkmate by sweeping off the board and declaring he is the Winner.

I think the key is the GOP. So long as they see him as capable of doing their bidding, he has a chance of surviving. But if the GOP start to see him as a liability, it is all over.

 

[luutzu]

Clear eyed and hard edged Luu. Very uncomfortable ..

I'm getting really old

But then I've always been an old guy. This teenage neighbour in the refugee camp gave me a nick name: Old man Luu. I was only 8

 

[Darc Knight]

" Asked how his relationship with Mr Trump had gone off the rails, Mr Tillerson said it might have reflected what he saw as his obligation to tell the President that he could not do certain things because they were illegal or would violate US treaties.

"I'd have to say to him, well Mr President, I understand what you want to do, but you can't do it that way. It violates the law, it violates treaty … you know, he got really frustrated."

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/trump-opens-fire-on-dumb-as-a-rock-rex-tillerson/10596638

 

[luutzu]

" Asked how his relationship with Mr Trump had gone off the rails, Mr Tillerson said it might have reflected what he saw as his obligation to tell the President that he could not do certain things because they were illegal or would violate US treaties.

"I'd have to say to him, well Mr President, I understand what you want to do, but you can't do it that way. It violates the law, it violates treaty … you know, he got really frustrated."

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-08/trump-opens-fire-on-dumb-as-a-rock-rex-tillerson/10596638

To which Trump replied: "I am the Law! Aren't I?"

Bloody Rex, for such a smart guy he ought to know the president likes yes-man and pretty blonde around him.