Darc Knight
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Really.... thats where the left think we are at?Are we the baddies ? As we watch Donald Trump destroying Nato, trashing Canada and Mexico., starting trade wars around the world, separating familes into separte detention facililities simply for wanting to escape murderous conditions you have to ask your the question - Are we the baddies ?
Check out the story.
What clip best sums up the Trump era? An old Mitchell and Webb sketch about WW2
Hadley Freeman
Politicians and media figures are starting to let their roots show, and this meme is about them
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/30/trump-era-mitchell-webb-are-we-the-baddies
Next wave Nazism. Possibly the most stupid ploy yet to get trump kicked out by the left.
In 2018 that belief is evaporating like a puddle on a hot day. The decisions to pull out of the Paris CC accord, to destroy the Iran nuclear agreement, to start a world trade war, to trash Canada , Mexico the European allies, the idea of separating familes trying to flee murderous regimes.. How many more examples do you want to see?
The whole thing shades it like Trump is the next hitler. He did something similar to what Australia did. Only we are probably worse. We locked people up in detention till they either take a plane ride home, or find another country.But it stopped others floating in.Give it a break Moxjo. The conversation is "Are we the baddies ?" not "Are we the Nazi's". If you have read the story the point is that through all of our lives we have lived with the certainty that the US was on "right/good" side of world politics. This was regardless of which side of US politics was in power because we believed the overall direction of US relationships with the world was one we thought was generally constructive and honourable.
In 2018 that belief is evaporating like a puddle on a hot day. The decisions to pull out of the Paris CC accord, to destroy the Iran nuclear agreement, to start a world trade war, to trash Canada , Mexico the European allies, the idea of separating familes trying to flee murderous regimes.. How many more examples do you want to see?
In the eyes of many countries and individuals the US is looking like the baddies. How that plays out in terms of diplomacy, economic and political relationships and in fact the stability of the world is a roll of the dice. Let's see what happens in the NATO conference next week.
Looks like Trump has pulled off another blinder, getting NATO to spend more on defense, rather than freeloading on the U.S.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-...es-agree-to-increase-defence-spending/9987810
He certainly seems to be getting more done, than any President in recent history.
SEOUL — North Korean officials did not turn up to a Thursday meeting with the U.S. military about repatriating the remains of the war dead, according to a U.S. official with knowledge of the situation.
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State Department officials had said that the meeting would likely take place on July 12, though they added that the date could shift.
On Thursday, however, Department of Defense and United Nations Command officials were left waiting in the DMZ’s Joint Security Area. The expected North Korean officials never arrived, according to the official who requested anonymity as he was not permitted to talk publicly about the event.
“We were ready,” the official said. “It just didn’t happen. They didn’t show.”
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Trump told a crowd of supporters [a week after the Singapore summit] that the remains of 200 Americans “have been sent back.” Military officials later denied that, but told reporters that they expected the remains to arrive within days and had made prearrangements for their arrival, such as storing caskets at the DMZ.
SEOUL: After failing to show for expected talks with American officials on Thursday, North Korea called for general-level military negotiations to discuss the return of the remains of U.S. soldiers killed in the 1950-1953 Korean War, Yonhap news agency reported.
Citing an unidentified South Korean official, Yonhap reported that the North Koreans want to speak with an American general, possibly as early as Sunday.
Looks like Trump has pulled off another blinder, getting NATO to spend more on defense, rather than freeloading on the U.S.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-...es-agree-to-increase-defence-spending/9987810
He certainly seems to be getting more done, than any President in recent history.
So he says...
Last month it was Little Rocket Man denuking. That seems to have stalled already. Quelle surprise! Even the most basic request the US made is not being followed through on.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.3d3b8a301ca5
The average Trump supporter seems to have a memory shorter than a goldfish, so all he has to do is find a new shiny bauble to dangle in front of them. This month it's NATO.
Well from an outsider looking in, it would appear he is making headway, rather than just sitting on his hands and giving a state of the nation talk as his predecessors appeared to do.
Or maybe his predecessors had a better idea of how state actors operate. The problem for Trump is he is pretty transparent; he luxuriates in being told how amazing he is, and in plain old grandstanding. And honestly, who thinks Russia is going to try and have a go at Germany or Western Europe?
(And that's before you get to the idea of encouraging Germany to increase its military spending, which would have been heresy only a generation ago. History tells you why the US carried the largest burden in Europe, it was because the Europeans have a habit of killing each other and dragging the rest of us into it. Maggie Thatcher and Mitterrand must be rolling over in their graves)
Or maybe his predecessors had a better idea of how state actors operate. The problem for Trump is he is pretty transparent; he luxuriates in being told how amazing he is, and in plain old grandstanding. And honestly, who thinks Russia is going to try and have a go at Germany or Western Europe?
Later, at an impromptu press conference Mr Trump said: “I told people that I would be very unhappy if they didn’t up their commitments very substantially … and countries are going to start upping their commitments.”
No sooner had Mr Trump departed the summit, however, than some of the other leaders suggested that the alliance had only agreed to “redouble” their efforts to boost spending without making any commitments.
Mr Macron described the meeting as a “moment of truth” about burden sharing, but dismissed suggestions that the allies had agreed to go beyond the 2 per cent goal. “Today we are sticking to our commitments and now we have to deliver,” Mr Macron said.
Ms Merkel acknowledged the need to address the issue, but indicated there had been no additional spending commitment. “We presented the current situation,” she said. “But considering the discussion among the European allies, not only the Americans, I think we need to ask ourselves consistently what more we can do.”
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