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Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

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South Koreans want to unite with a guy that murders his own family and throws tens of thousands of its citizens into slavery and hunger ?

Yeah, right.

Well you posted that on June 13th, what 10 days ago, if only our politicians had a much effect. lol
Unfortunately Rumpy, Trump seems to have caused another good outcome, how dare he, who the hell does he think he is?

http://time.com/5319627/north-south-korea-family-reunite/

It all sounds a bit familiar, the Left bag him and the outcomes keep coming.
Sounds a bit like silly billy, to me, just because the media say it will never happen, doesn't mean everyone has to parrot it.
 
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Well unfortunately Rumpy, Trump seems to have caused another good outcome, how dare he, who the hell does he think he is?

Trump is used to the idea that a signature means a binding agreement. He doesn't seem to realise that he's dealing with a psycho.

But anyway, if it works, good on him.
 
Trump is used to the idea that a signature means a binding agreement. He doesn't seem to realise that he's dealing with a psycho.

But anyway, if it works, good on him.

Yep, the last thing the left will do, is give credit where credit is due.

Much easier to sit back, and ponce around, with no positive input, and then blame everyone else for any failure.
Jeez it would be funny, if it wasn't so repetitious.
 
Repeating myself, but Trump is a salesman through and through, trained to make a quid.

Twisting or exaggerating is right up the salesman's alley, just got to get that commission.

In fact the Vikings are painted as terror monger killers. They were in fact the world's first good trader sailsmen, going from port to port moving wares and good relations, opening up new markets and spreading genes into nutcases such as myself. Probably a bit of Viking in Trumpy too, looking at the hair and fair skin lol.
 
Personally I think Melania does care, she may well have been the deciding factor in getting Donald to reverse his decision on family separations, but what was she thinking wearing that jacket ?


Donald J. Trump
17 hrs ·


“I REALLY DON’T CARE, DO U?” written on the back of Melania’s jacket, refers to the Fake News Media. Melania has learned how dishonest they are, and she truly no longer cares!
 

Unfortunately explod, as you should well know, from your working background.
Sometimes turning the other cheek, just results in another slap.

Maybe trump calling rocket man to account, actually made him listen, rather than begging him as the others have done. Who knows?

From my personal experience in life, if I stood there and took a beating, there was always someone willing to dish another one out. It's now called bullying.

We in the west have become so politically correct, we have lost the ability to defend our dignity, we are so self deprecating we agree with any aspersions made against us.
Maybe Trump is saying, what we all feel should be said, but don't because we have been conditioned to piss on ourselves.
 
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Maybe Dennis Rodman was right and the Obama administration had a chance to have talks back in their time but insisted on not negotiating or talking one on one....Chairman Kim only had one option as I see it and that was to develop the nukes capable of hitting the US and with this option he had a chance at getting to the table with the US and looks like it worked only time will tell how far this meeting with Trump and what happens on the Korean Peninsular has any lasting benefits at least it is a start ....I am sure China had a hand in making this happen as well.........He may also think that if he does not take a different direction that his dynasty will not survive into the future but who knows.......Regimes such as these only understand force not political correct B.S..........
 
This is why the left is in trouble, why conservative thought is undergoing a renaissance, and yes, why the *real far right is gaining strength.

More and more the left is being busted for its toxic, misrepresentative, and sometimes dowright mendacious narrative

...and Time magazine just got busted big time.

 
So Trump is a lying cretin (criminal) even his own wife trolls him, the press call him out and the snowflakes start squealing how unfair/bias it all is.....funny old world at the moment.
 
I came across this on another forum and found it interesting.

From an Aussie living in the US.

 
So Trump is a lying cretin (criminal) even his own wife trolls him, the press call him out and the snowflakes start squealing how unfair/bias it all is.....funny old world at the moment.
I think your idea of criminality is upside down komrade

 
Hmm..l'm not surprised...


CNN, MSNBC look away as Trump hosts families of
victims killed by illegal immigrants

President Donald Trump hosted families who lost loved ones to crimes committed by illegal immigrants. CNN and MSNBC cut their coverage of the White House event shortly after Trump accused the media of ‘overlooking’ the families.

Trump hosted 14 members of “Angel Families” at the White House on Friday. Some of them held up photos of the loved ones whose murderers turned out to be illegal immigrants.

"We're gathered today to hear directly from the American victims of illegal immigration. You hear the other side, you never hear this side, you don't know what's going on,” Trump said. "These are the American citizens permanently separated from their loved ones… because they were killed by criminal illegal aliens.”

"These are the families the media ignores. They don't talk about them, very unfair," the president continued.

At this point, two of of three major US cable networks decided to cut away from the event, the Washington Examiner pointed out on Friday afternoon. Fox News stayed tuned to the meeting.


“I'm not sure why attacks on the media are necessary there,” CNN anchor Brooke Baldwin said as she interrupted the coverage, adding that “obviously our hearts go out to them.” CNN then returned to coverage of illegal immigrant families being separated after crossing the US border.

MSNBC likewise decided the event was not worth their continued attention. “Of course their stories are indeed tragic,”anchor Chris Jansing said, before moving on to a segment that disputed Trump's claim of widespread crime being committed by illegal immigrants.





 


Should Trump also do another show and tell with victims of fat White male conman? After which Trump can then evict himself out of the US?
 
Should Trump also do another show and tell with victims of fat White male conman? After which Trump can then evict himself out of the US?

That piece of propaganda by Trump was recognised for the cheap shxt it was. If the networks had any balls they would have have called it far more aggresively.

What Trump was saying was that because some illegal immagrants had commited crimes ALL potential immigrants are potential killers/rapists ect. Luutzu comment about parading the victims of fat white conmen and then lumping all fat whites into the same boat makes that point.

And as for the hysterical rubbish being paraded around about this kid or that kid not being quite illegal enough to warrant being on the front page of Time ? What absolute, total, shite ..!!

There are thousands of children summarily separated from their families. No one knows where there families are because authorities made decisions not to note who was going where. Classy what ?

This isn't a one off assault on a person that has stoped and may be repaired. These children and their parents are separated and in custody in effect indefinately. They have no idea where their family is, why they have been separated and when they might be re-united. Anyone with an ounce of compasion and two functioning brain cells would understand the trauma this is causing the children and their parents.

And despite these facts the sociopathitic right is calling these crying kids actors and trying to dismiss the cruelty of the whole story because one pictured kid is not "illegal" enough?

In my view the architects of this infamy should not be allowed to face the public without being shamed on every occasion. It's just criminal.

Get a picture of where these actions are leading the world community.

Inspired by Trump, the world could be heading back to the 1930s
Jonathan Freedland
The US president tears children from parents, and in Europe his imitators dehumanise migrants. We know where such hatred leads

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...-world-1930s-children-parents-europe-migrants
 

Some interesting statements in this article:

"There is no system in place to reunite them. The children were not properly registered."

If this is true then its disgusting and a real violation. If its not true, then its just as disgusting. Can anyone verify from a non media source?
 


Non media source to verify this situation. Let's try a few.

John Sandweg, the head of US immigration and customs enforcement under the Obama administration, who has been highly critical of Trump, warned that some migrant children may never be reunited with their families because of the logistical difficulties. “The parents can be sent back very quickly to Central America, whereas the kids are staying in the US for years while they’re going through the immigration process,” he said.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ration-policy-like-genocide-theresa-may-visit


“There is no system whatsoever to track these family separations, no efforts systematically to reunite these families,” Mr Enriquez (the director of the unaccompanied minors program for Catholic Charities) said. “There is no supervisor, there is no database saying, ‘child here, parent there,’ so they can come back together.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...reds-children-stranded-new-york-a8409231.html

No clear plan yet on how to reunite parents with children separated at US border
Rights workers scramble to collect as much information as possible from the handcuffed men and women in the hope of later helping the families

Goes into details of how little information is properly recorded of names and children and parents and where each has been sent.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/no-cl...parents-with-children-separated-at-us-border/
 
After a bit more research I visted Snopes to see what they had to say about the problems facing parents and children sent to separate internment camps in the US. I's an excellent article .

Does the United States Have a Plan to Reunite Children Separated From Parents at the Border?
Attorneys, politicians, and journalists all describe a bureaucracy unprepared for the challenges of reuniting large numbers of children forcibly separated from their parents.
By
Alex Kasprak
19 June 2018




On 6 April 2018, the Department of Justice announced that the Trump Administration would be instituting a new “zero tolerance policy” regarding border crossings, one that explicitly includes child separation as a part of that policy.

Despite repeated denials by Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen during an 18 June 2018 press conference, this child separation policy has explicitly been described by the Trump administration as a move whose main goal is to act as a deterrent to illegal immigration. Officials have said so since at least March 2017; Chief of Staff John Kelly said so as recently as 11 May 2018.

Convoluted arguments presented by the DHS to the contrary notwithstanding, the policy as described by Attorney General Jeff Sessions requires the prosecution of “100 percent” of illegal entries, and therefore that entails forcible separation of children from their parents once those parents are arrested:

People are not going to caravan or otherwise stampede our border. We need legality and integrity in the system. That’s why the Department of Homeland Security is now referring 100 percent of illegal Southwest Border crossings to the Department of Justice for prosecution. And the Department of Justice will take up those cases.

I have put in place a “zero tolerance” policy for illegal entry on our Southwest border. If you cross this border unlawfully, then we will prosecute you. It’s that simple. If you smuggle illegal aliens across our border, then we will prosecute you. If you are smuggling a child, then we will prosecute you and that child will be separated from you as required by law.

In the first six weeks following Session’s announcement, at least 2,000 children were separated from their parents, at least according to numbers released by the Department of Homeland Security. The required prosecution of their parents necessarily results in their being referred criminally to the the DHS, and their children detained under the authority of the Department of Health and Human Services’s Office of Refugee Resettlement.

Things become especially problematic after the two parties are placed on these divergent paths, the New York Times reported, because the timelines that parents follow are often times much shorter than the ones for the detained children:

In federal court, parents typically plead guilty to the misdemeanor offense of illegal entry. Many are then likely to accept “expedited removal” from the country, in the hope of being reunited quickly with their children. But children cannot be subject to expedited removal; they are automatically entitled to a full hearing before an immigration judge, and their cases take longer to resolve.

Government bureaucracy, differing institutional objectives, and a lack of communication provide what is, in effect, a complete firewall between between those officials prosecuting parents and the ones tasked with caring for their detained children, making it impossible to concurrently track both parties as they are processed by their respective agencies. The Times reported:

The processing and detention of migrant families can involve three Homeland Security agencies — Customs and Border Protection, Immigration and Customs Enforcement and Citizenship and Immigration Services — as well as the departments of Justice and Health and Human Services. Poor coordination among them has made it hard to track children and parents once their paths diverge in the labyrinthine system.

As described in an 18 June 2018 New Yorker article, the system as it currently operates appears to be wholly unable to track both parties once they go down those divergent paths:

No protocols have been put in place for keeping track of parents and children concurrently, for keeping parents and children in contact with each other while they are separated, or for eventually reuniting them. Immigration lawyers, public defenders, and advocates along the border have been trying to fill the void.

Nor is there any guarantee that a deported parent will be reunited with their child before being removed from the country or a guarantee that a child would be notified if their parent had been deported. On 17 June 2018, the New York Times described one such instance of that occurring:

The Border Patrol was waiting as [Elsa Ortiz and her son Anthony] made their way from the border on May 26, and soon mother and son were in a teeming detention center in southern Texas. The next part unfolded so swiftly that, even now, Ms. Ortiz cannot grasp it: Anthony was sent to a shelter for migrant children. And she was put on a plane back to Guatemala.

“I am completely devastated,” Ms. Ortiz, 25, said in one of a series of video interviews last week from her family home in Guatemala. Her eyes swollen from weeping and her voice subdued, she said she had no idea when or how she would see her son again.

In these cases, which the Times reported to be occurring in “several” instances, there is an even higher risk that a child is never reunited with their parents. John Sandweg, who was acting director of ICE during the Obama administration, told the paper that reunification is especially difficult when a parent is deported without the child and that in those cases, “there is a very high risk that parents and children will be permanently separated.”

Sandweg reiterated this point to several other outlets as well. “If the administration doesn’t reunify these children very quickly, which is logistically very hard to do, you’re going to have a lot of permanent separations,” he told a reporter for the Canadian outlet Global News.

The most recent surge in separated families at the border appears to highlight the fact that there are few, if any, existing safeguards to prevent such scenarios from occurring, and suggests that the government has not developed a workable system to ensure communication between all the relevant parties.

The New Yorker reported a number of problems plaguing the system: Both children and adults are assigned “alien numbers” once they enter the custody of the United States, but these numbers are not necessarily communicated between agencies. There is a hotline setup for families to call for information about detained children, but it suffers from long wait times, the inability to leave a callback number, and the preventative expense of international calling. On top of that, children are moved between facilities frequently, making it hard to work backwards from where a parent and child were first separated:

Jennifer Podkul, who is the policy director of [immigrant-rights group] Kids in Need of Defense, told [The New Yorker] that advocates are trying to piece together information about the whereabouts of children based on the federal charging documents used in the parent’s immigration case. “You can try to figure out where and when the child was apprehended based on that,” she said. “But where the child is being held often has nothing to do with where she and her parent were arrested. The kids get moved around to different facilities.”

“I cannot convey enough how much utter chaos there is,” Michelle Brané, director of migrant rights and justice at the research and advocacy organization Women’s Refugee Commission, told the New York Times regarding efforts to reunify children with parents. Politicians, as well, have been unable to have their questions or concerns answered, as reported by BuzzFeed News on 18 June 2018:

Oregon Sen. Jeff Merkley, a Democrat who led a delegation of lawmakers to see the impact the “zero tolerance” policy was having on the border […] said he hadn’t received a clear answer on the how the government planned to return children to the parents, in particular in the case of asylum-seekers.

“My impression has been that in general many are not being reunited after they do their time served … that they are in fact not reunified while awaiting their asylum claim,” Merkley told BuzzFeed News. “There’s great confusion on this point.”

This level of accountability was echoed in the New Yorker coverage as well:

Although the zero-tolerance policy was officially announced last month, it has been in effect, in more limited form, since at least last summer. Several months ago, as cases of family separation started surfacing across the country, immigrant-rights groups began calling for the [DHS] to create procedures for tracking families after they are split up. At the time, [DHS] said that it would address the problem, but there is no evidence that it actually did so.


Antar Davidson, a former youth care worker at a children’s shelter who resigned after ORR began sending separated children to the facility, described to the Los Angeles Times instances of children who felt utterly hopeless or, in some cases, believed that their parents were likely dead:


[Three separated] children were “huddled together, tears streaming down their faces,” he said. Officials had told them their parents were “lost,” which they interpreted to mean dead. Davidson said he told the children he didn’t know where their parents were, but that they had to be strong […].

During his time at the shelter, children were running away, screaming, throwing furniture and attempting suicide, Davidson said. Several were being monitored this week because they were at risk of running away, self-harm and suicide, records show.

We reached out to Health and Human Services for clarification on the safeguards in place for preventing a permanent separation, but we have not yet received any response. In an 18 June 2018 press release, however, DHS addressed concerns over concurrently monitoring the legal progress of both child and parent by stating, “DHS is committed to and has procedures in place to connect family members after separation so adults know the location of minors and have regular communication with them.”

DHS then referenced the aforementioned hotline phone numbers.
 

It is just disgusting.

Watching clips of those talk show hosts and "news" anchors calling child imprisonment as "summer camps"; that Trump is only screwing with these people and their kids because they're illegal foreigners, doing it to "protect" American citizens. Fark me.

I used to wonder how the Nazi got perfectly decent Germans to go along with their crimes... this is a perfect example of what a morally screwed up "leadership" with compliant media/propaganda machine can do.

Trump just literally lower the safety standard of baby cots. How will that save American infants?

He's ramping up the defunding of public schools; further cutting funding for higher education... poor kids wanting to learn? Go get a job you stupid peasants.

Raising rent on gov't housing. Cutting back food stamps and healthcare on children and pensioners...

All that because apparently the US have no money. But somehow they magically have $70B extra they're putting towards the military budget; and that $1.5 trillion tax cuts.

And now, with these "trade wars"... That's just a new tax on American consumers. I mean, any company that's affected by it will get taxpayers subsidies. So they can raise their prices if that's what they need to do to retain the same margin, and if that's not enough, they lobbied to get subsidies.

Maybe they really should stop "protecting" and helping people.
 
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