Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[PZ99]

Yes, that's fine, but anyone who criticises the Catholic church is a Marxist/Socialist ?

Paleeze.

The irony is it puts the name caller in the same league as Adam Brandt.

Rank hypocrisy = classic Conservative.

 

[Tisme]

Noirua, we are all entitled to our view.

Freedom of speech and freedom of thought.

and freedom of a Christian religion .... I'll defend that right Tink even if I might be at odds with a lot of it.

 

[Tisme]

Yes, that's fine, but anyone who criticises the Catholic church is a Marxist/Socialist ?

Paleeze.

especially as it's been the RCs who have driven their religion via the social agenda means.

 

[Tisme]

For Trump, yes it's less true.

He's accused by some 20 women of sexual harassment. Caught on tape bragging about sexually assaulting women and "they let you because you're famous". etc. etc.

His career seems to be going fine.

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Whatever his methods, the recipe seems to be working well for him

 

[SirRumpole]

Whatever his methods, the recipe seems to be working well for him

A fixed four year term makes polls irrelevant.

Lets see what the mid term Congressional elections bring. If the Dems get control of Congress back, it could be "hello impeachment".

 

[Tisme]

A fixed four year term makes polls irrelevant.

Lets see what the mid term Congressional elections bring. If the Dems get control of Congress back, it could be "hello impeachment".

I have a feeling there is a certain amount of national masochism going on. Not a bitter pill, but a certain amount of enjoyment of domestic upheaval and renewal from the previous robot like state of affairs. The little man feels known, if not rewarded.

 

[SirRumpole]

I have a feeling there is a certain amount of national masochism going on. Not a bitter pill, but a certain amount of enjoyment of domestic upheaval and renewal from the previous robot like state of affairs. The little man feels known, if not rewarded.

Yeah you could be right. Obama was dignified but didn't really achieve much. Maybe the Yanks need someone really crap to make them appreciate the quiet achiever type.

 

[wayneL]

Yes, that's fine, but anyone who criticises the Catholic church is a Marxist/Socialist ?

Paleeze.

Hang on... You don't think bazza is a Marxist/socialist?

 

[SirRumpole]

Hang on... You don't think bazza is a Marxist/socialist?

Not really. Do you think VC is a Marxist/Socialist because he's always attacking the Catholic church ?

 

[Tisme]

Yeah you could be right. Obama was dignified but didn't really achieve much. Maybe the Yanks need someone really crap to make them appreciate the quiet achiever type.

They are raised on a diet of struggle against the big bad British, even though they were British themselves. It's embedded in their psyche that the hard earned good fight is rewarding.

 

[wayneL]

Not really. Do you think VC is a Marxist/Socialist because he's always attacking the Catholic church ?

VC is not relevant.

What do you see as bazzas political ideology?

 

[SirRumpole]

What do you see as bazzas political ideology?

I don't really care. I take everyone's posts on a case by case basis.

 

[wayneL]

I don't really care. I take everyone's posts on a case by case basis.

Well so do I, that's why i think of bas as a Marxist, where as I see you as old fashioned Labor.

As a centrist I see a lot of common ground with you, not so much with bas.

 

[SirRumpole]

Well so do I, that's why i think of bas as a Marxist, where as I see you as old fashioned Labor.

As a centrist I see a lot of common ground with you, not so much with bas.

Well there we go. I consider myself a Centrist and I see you as a fair bit right of me. Not that I despise you for that as you seem to despise bas, I think that I certainly have points in common with both you and bas which shows that trying to put people in well defined boxes is pretty silly.

 

[luutzu]

Whatever his methods, the recipe seems to be working well for him

It was events and circumstances that made Trump the president. It was not his own brilliance, drive and hardwork that did it.

So if the recipe includes being born into wealth, inherited some $250M in the 70s... get into the presidential race to promote his Apprentice reality tv show; had the corrupted DNC and Clinton machine rigging the votes to push a "socialist outsider" out for a hated establishment politician... then have decades of policies that turn the vast majority of voters wanting anyone but the usual insider politician... yea, he did good.

But as the Greek have taught us, one can never be certain of how well we've done until we're on our deathbed.

 

[wayneL]

Well there we go. I consider myself a Centrist and I see you as a fair bit right of me. Not that I despise you for that as you seem to despise bas, I think that I certainly have points in common with both you and bas which shows that trying to put people in well defined boxes is pretty silly.

Like putting all conservative thinkers into the alt right box?

 

[SirRumpole]

Like putting all conservative thinkers into the alt right box?

Sure, that is just as silly as putting all the Greens into the Socialist/Marxist box. There are spectrums of thought in most organisations.

 

[Tisme]

It was events and circumstances that made Trump the president. It was not his own brilliance, drive and hardwork that did it.

So if the recipe includes being born into wealth, inherited some $250M in the 70s... get into the presidential race to promote his Apprentice reality tv show; had the corrupted DNC and Clinton machine rigging the votes to push a "socialist outsider" out for a hated establishment politician... then have decades of policies that turn the vast majority of voters wanting anyone but the usual insider politician... yea, he did good.

But as the Greek have taught us, one can never be certain of how well we've done until we're on our deathbed.

You think he was an accidental tourist?

 

[Tisme]

Well there we go. I consider myself a Centrist .

The real test is to compare your comfort zones with the original (Lib/Labor) policies towards race, economics, human rights, worker's rights, nationalism, etc and see just how central your views are. I say this because today both party policies seem to be grab bags of popularism rather than blunt force beliefs.

In yesteryear xenophobia was a shared policy, later owned by the Labor Party, but these days it's considered an alt-right chattel. There is no rhyme nor reason in the definitions currently IMO

 

[Tink]

As I have stated a few times on this forum, I don't care what people 'believe'.

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The foundations of this country and its heritage is based on Christianity.

Our public holidays reflect it.

Our Constitution reflects it with - Almighty God.

The government dealt with law and order etc.

The Churches were a part of the community and every area had a Christian Church.

Just my view.

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