Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?
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It sounds like history to me, the Indians in America, the Saxons in Britain, the Aborigines in Australia, history is littered with people who have been thrown out.
It just seems to be a recent thing, that it has become an issue the funny thing is, does anyone think it won't happen again.lol
Where is Yugoslavia? a lot of people were born with a belief, that it was their Country, what about them?
If a war happened and Australia was captured by a foreign Country, then what?
Currently we seem to live in a World, where we believe nothing bad happens, because we don't want it to and we say it can't.
History has proven, that bubble can be burst in an instant.
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True.
But it does build a case against God being either non-existent or practically, might as well, be non-existent when Pope after Holy Christian Kings and Emperors... all the way down to local parish priests through the ages... are total nasty pieces of work, committing the most heinous of of crimes... all in the name of God... and yet God didn't strike them out of the blue just to show the world He doesn't approve.
I mean, if I was God I'd strike Genghis Khan to dust the moment he claim that I sent him out into the world to punish (whoever Genghis wanted to steal from). Or at least send him a cease and desist telegram.
Yeah of course, nations conquer other nations, and we should move on. But when it's happening, you don't want to support the aggressive side (if you have empathy for suffering people, surely not). A look at the conquering map in the Israel thread shows Israel gradually taking almost all of the land. Unless you put people in ghettos or execute a genocide, I don't think you can get a result like that. Also, it's a strange sort of alliance the US has with Israel...Although Trump has done some good things , this isn't good (imo , different from other conservatives here). It will fuel hatred for the western nations. I should add though that my knowledge about Palestine/Israel is scratchy enough. As always , just some musings.
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Recent interview with Norman Finkelstein. One of the most honest and knowledgeable guy on the subject.
I'd put money on Trump wanting that US/Mexican wall up largely because Israel's wall builders will get a big slice out of them $20B (low estimate).
Trump's son-in-law, and WH advisor, and Peace Envoy to the Middle East, is being asked why a company his family (and himself) own received $30M last year from an Israeli firm.
He told them, what do you mean $30M? I thought it's more than that [jk].
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More fake news from Trump.
He said Obama made a "bad deal" on a new embassy in London when in fact it was G.W.Bush who made the decision.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-...p-to-open-embassy-because-of-bad-deal/9325276
He said Obama made a "bad deal" on a new embassy in London when in fact it was G.W.Bush who made the decision.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-...p-to-open-embassy-because-of-bad-deal/9325276
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It looks like a pretty bad deal. I mean, for $1B+ and Obama/Jr. couldn't haggle a tonne or two of brass trimmings to the building? prfff.
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Trump has taken credit for Fiat/Chrysler ramping up it's factories with their $1bn latest investment in jobs and growth.
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Everything Trump don't like, or is "a bad deal", was Obama's fault.
Everything that is "good" or to Trump's liking is obviously the Donald's awesomeness.
Just don't ask him about the details or the evidence. Like all great men before him, he signs whatever is put in front of him then go golfing.
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A good interview on why certain countries became "shitholes" Trump don't like so much.
Dam it, he's one racist fark isn't he.
Dam it, he's one racist fark isn't he.
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The polarisation of US politics under Trump.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-15/redneck-revolt-and-the-hard-lefts-call-to-arms/9303758
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-15/redneck-revolt-and-the-hard-lefts-call-to-arms/9303758
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Not so much racist, but xenophobic perhaps. He's the face of a revitalised USofA nationalism and potentially isolationism regime.
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That's what Pauline said too. Right after it was explained to her what's a xenophobe.
I think Trump is more of an internationalist. He doesn't give a hoot about America. Anybody's money is good enough for people like him.
His talk of NAFTA being a bad deal for America; creating American jobs... all talk.
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Describing a *geographical/political* entity as a shithole (or whatever) has nothing whatever to do with racism. this is why the left should just **** off with these offensive labels as they are rarely accurate... completely way off the mark in the quoted text.
Give yourself a smack, luu.
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He could have got away with suggesting the comments were directed at the country and not the people if he hadn't followed up with "why can't we have people from Norway" (or similar words)
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And in which universe does it make political sense for the President of the most powerful country of earth to openly describe other countries as xhithouses ?
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Trump has never been one for diplomacy we all know that, but some countries are, to put it politely, not very nice places to be in. Victoria has finally admitted that there is a problem with African gangs, and if we don't want that problem getting worse then one solution is to not take any more people from those countries.
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If their countries aren't screwed up, they wouldn't be seeking refuge elsewhere. They'd be, if they want to, apply for a skilled visa or pay $150,000 to fly over.
Would going into a country as a skilled migrant from a "good" country mean they won't break the law?
Who knows, they might be political consultants and investment bankers. Know the kind of damage those low-life cause?
But sure, Trump is not being racist at all. He just call it how it is.
First, people from poor and war torn countries seeking refuge do not equal gang criminals and drug dealers.
So that's not calling it how it is.
Second, count how many thousands of families Trump screwed over the years as a businessman who refused to pay his contractors. How many of his own investors he took money from then declare bankrupt.
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