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Whatever
Nonsense.
Far too much - that number can easily be cut in 3. Don't even need to go to university to be a plumber!
But it does take 6 years to get a plumbing licence. 6 years of work and study. Id expect anybody that puts 6 years into achieving a qualification be suitably remunerated above that of someone that hasnt.
Petrol, for example, would still cost the same since it's a globally traded commodity. I my income is halved then I now have to spend twice as much of it in % terms on fuel. Same goes for everything else that is commodity based (eg food staples).No, but you need to put it in perspective...again if everyone earned 50% less it would make no difference at all - it would be a pointless condition.
I'm sure that the average person would love to do these things. But they don't have enough money, and wanting to do things like travel etc is a key reason that motivates people to work longer.How can it get boring? The world is pretty big and there are infinite things to do out there, more than you can do in a hundred lifetimes.
It takes 6 years to become a plumber? I find this hard to believe. Very hard.
What exactly is done during these 6 years?
There's that massive leverage from oil / mechanisation.Really, the cost of labour has fallen dramatically in the last 100 years. How many workers does it take to run a big farm compared to back then? My point is that simply speaking the workers themselves have not reaped the benefits of these productivity increases that have occurred.
If it takes 100 man hours of labour to produce something then it takes 100 man hours of labour to produce it. If you cut working hours in half, then you just have to employ twice as many people.I don't see why? The demand and supply will be exactly the same so the costs will simply adjust to match it. That is what I am suggesting - the costs of everything will go down the same as everyone's salary, so the end result is little change for consumers.
Petrol, for example, would still cost the same since it's a globally traded commodity. I my income is halved then I now have to spend twice as much of it in % terms on fuel. Same goes for everything else that is commodity based (eg food staples).
My take on that is people want the money more than they want some extra spare time.
4 year plumbing apprenticeship.
Followed by a 2 year period as a 'provisional' plumber, during which time additional study is needed to then attain an actual plumbing licence. The studying component can be completed in about 18 months. But your still generally required to complete 2 years as a provisional plumber before you can apply for the full licence. (a provisional licencee can 'generally' only work under someone else for eg, in a wages role within a plumbing company)
In case you havnt noticed. In this country we take our plumbing quite seriously :O There's not too many places in the world you can safely drink the water from a tap
Simply dividing the hours across more people doesn't reduce either the time or the cost, if anything it will increase the time due to lost efficiencies associated with greater "hand over" time especially in more intellectual roles.
Rubbish. The plumber would be lucky to earn the equivalent of a $30 per hour job charing that much due to the overheads and the sheer volume of time spent complying with all manner of rules and regulations.Far too much - that number can easily be cut in 3. Don't even need to go to university to be a plumber!
No no no - that doesn't even make sense. If everyone has half the buying power, than it must drop by half - isn't it obvious?
Unless you count bushwalking etc then most recreational activities cost money. Given that most people would have already done the free ones, since they can afford to, they need money to do more.think these sorts of people are too consumerism focused and don't understand that the best things in life are free.
Whether or not that works will depend on the project. If the project runs for 3 months then maybe it would work. If the project runs for 10+ years then I can't see the idea catching on.That need not be a problem - you can simply have people work on and off by project. Ie. Work 40 (or even more?) hours a week on a project, then take a holiday next project, etc.
I don't wanna work for you.Pain in the ass I gotta pay a bloke to have 4 weeks off + 17 1/2 %
Then pay someone else to do his job ,so it costs me, no you twice as much.
same with public holidays Australia does'nt go back to work till after Easter
Sounds like a lot of red tape to unjustifiable increase their pay.
Also, would you not make money during these 6 years anyway? And so then it is quite irrelevant.
If so many people now retired had so much to do in the way of leisure opportunities, you would not see the current level of volunteerism in communities all throughout Australia. Working is how many people get their sense of identity and usefulness.How can it get boring? The world is pretty big and there are infinite things to do out there, more than you can do in a hundred lifetimes.
Do haircuts quicker? (should actually be "more quickly" if we are pedantic).Well we don't really know that do we, perhaps the haircutter will be happier because they only need to work 20 hours and do haircuts quicker?
If it takes x amount of labour to extract a barrel of oil (for example) using currently available technology and the oil fields we actually have today then that's how much labour it takes. Changing the working hours doesn't reduce this.
People that go to university generally make money during years spent studying too. So should we assume you come to the same conclusion that the length of time one takes to acquire a tertiary degree irrelevant ?
If so many people now retired had so much to do in the way of leisure opportunities,
you would not see the current level of volunteerism in communities all throughout Australia. Working is how many people get their sense of identity and usefulness.
Many people, when they retire, feel bored and lost and can't wait to fill their lives up again with working for no financial reward, such is their need to feel part of society.
Do haircuts quicker? (should actually be "more quickly" if we are pedantic).
The fact that you can make such a comment probably means you cut your own hair and have little understanding of the skill that's required for a good haircut.
And the money to build then goes where, exactly?Honestly, labour is pretty insignificant when it comes to oil. An oil rig would cost more than what it would cost to employ everyone working on it for the rest of their lives. Increasingly, oil rigs are becoming unmanned or requiring very little labour to operate them.
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