What is racism?

[Agentm]

I thought it would be biological. Aren't Melanesians a 'race' of people. A Melanesian who grows up in Melbourne is still a Melanesian aren't they? A Melanesian Australian perhaps? If I saw that person on the street I would automatically assume that they would prefer to go fishing and sit under a coconut tree and drink Kava all day than want to be a lawyer and play Aussie Rules, for example. I would say it's in their blood. Is that racism?



I tell you what, racism is alive and well in Peru.

absolutely its a racist view.. no question at all

 

[tigerboi]

Yes, hate everyone, and especially truckies.

yep car drivers as well

 

[Buddy]

yep car drivers as well

And while we're at it, include bike riders.

But seriously folks, have a look at this.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article5512401.ece
Is this racist? I think so. So lets now hear some words of outrage from all those who want to cut off Harry's nuts. I suspect the silence will be deafening.

What irks me about all the hoo ha over Harry and others, etc, etc, and things that people say, is that it's all a storm in a teacup driven by idealic PC morons. I will continue to exercise MY RIGHT to call whoever I please, whatever I please. Especially when they are w%$kers. And like the old saying goes.... sticks and stone can break my bones but words will never hurt me. Catch me if you can.

 

[Sean K]

absolutely its a racist view.. no question at all

Or, is what I described 'Culturism'.

Wish I could be sitting under a coconut tree drinking kava all day.....

 

[nunthewiser]

Wish I could be sitting under a coconut tree drinking kava all day.....

buy a laptop

 

[glenn_r]

Or, is what I described 'Culturism'.

Wish I could be sitting under a coconut tree drinking kava all day.....

I thought Kava tasted more like Dettol mixed with muddy water but it does mellow you out nicely...

 

[IFocus]

Was there an issue with racism before the Poms ruled the world..........was Genghis Khan a racist?

 

[wayneL]

And while we're at it, include bike riders.

But seriously folks, have a look at this.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article5512401.ece
Is this racist? I think so. So lets now hear some words of outrage from all those who want to cut off Harry's nuts. I suspect the silence will be deafening.

What irks me about all the hoo ha over Harry and others, etc, etc, and things that people say, is that it's all a storm in a teacup driven by idealic PC morons. I will continue to exercise MY RIGHT to call whoever I please, whatever I please. Especially when they are w%$kers. And like the old saying goes.... sticks and stone can break my bones but words will never hurt me. Catch me if you can.

Racism? Hmmm Both English and Scots are and admixture of Briton, Gallic and Teutonic blood... all "Caucasian". The same "race".

I'd call it Nationalism.

 

[rederob]

Racism?
Amongst superior beings, the practice of ensuring others come second.

 

[GumbyLearner]

Racism

A few examples off the top of my head.

Refusing to hire a person for a job because of their race.

Refusing to serve a customer in a store because of their race.

Refusing to provide a service to a person because of their race.

Excluding a person from going swimming at the beach, travelling on public transport, use public facilities/amenities because of their race.

Segregating people and restricting their movement through government regulation or otherwise because of their race.

All of the above examples mentioned involves somebody discriminating against
another person because of their race.

It is called racial discrimination.

In Australia (also the UK have similar laws) -> The Racial Discrimination Act 1975 gives effect to Australia's obligations under the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination.

Its major objectives are to promote equality before the law for all persons, regardless of their race, colour or national or ethnic origin, and make discrimination against people on the basis of their race, colour, descent or national or ethnic origin unlawful.

Heres the link to the HREOC homepage

http://www.hreoc.gov.au/about/legislation/index.html#rda

and here's the link to the Australian law as following the UN charter

http://www.comlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/ActCompilation1.nsf/0/047A676463437A9BCA25748F0007000A/$file/RacialDiscrim1975_WD02.pdf

I welcome any disagreement as to the semantics of my posts. But its always good to read up on these kind of things!

 

[wayneL]

Racism

A few examples off the top of my head.

Refusing to hire a person for a job because of their race.

Refusing to serve a customer in a store because of their race.

Refusing to provide a service to a person because of their race.

Excluding a person from going swimming at the beach, travelling on public transport, use public facilities/amenities because of their race.

Segregating people and restricting their movement through government regulation or otherwise because of their race.

All of the above examples mentioned involves somebody discriminating against
another person because of their race.

It is called racial discrimination.

In Australia (also the UK have similar laws) -> The Racial Discrimination Act 1975 gives effect to Australia's obligations under the International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination.

Its major objectives are to promote equality before the law for all persons, regardless of their race, colour or national or ethnic origin, and make discrimination against people on the basis of their race, colour, descent or national or ethnic origin unlawful.

Heres the link to the HREOC homepage

http://www.hreoc.gov.au/about/legislation/index.html#rda

and here's the link to the Australian law as following the UN charter

http://www.comlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legislation/ActCompilation1.nsf/0/047A676463437A9BCA25748F0007000A/$file/RacialDiscrim1975_WD02.pdf

I welcome any disagreement as to the semantics of my posts. But its always good to read up on these kind of things!

I think that's a very fair summary. But going back to DocJ's comment:

Unfortunately, racism seems to be anything a non-white person says it is, regardless of intent, context or audience.

It's also whatever the lunatic far left jobsworths say it is too. To construe someone's nickname (Sooty) as racist is just alarmingly ludicrous.

Is it not a fact that this person's face is somewhat darker than his friends in the club? Friends often pick on a distinguishing feature and make a nickname out of it. eg, Stickman, Tubs, Schnozzle, Bluey etc. Are these names weightist, nosist and hairist?

On another UK forum someone was asking (rhetorically) if it was possible to speak to a real human on a bank's enquiries number.

I wrote, "Yes, but they all speak Hindi or Urdu and live elsewhere." A statement of actually fact with no malice implied. Of course I was immediately howled down as a racist! WTF!

As you know, I am not one to shrink away from confrontation and immediately went on the front foot and extracted an admission that it was not a racist or even malicious comment. Nevertheless I was forced to defend myself from the accusation.

This is a sign that things are out of balance.

In a free society (hmmm) we should not be prevented from making accurate and impartial observations.

What these extreme left wing social engineers need to understand is the Law Of Unintended Consequences. All this "reverse racism" is serving to actually increase racist feelings amongst their own constituency, the working class.

In Britain, the allegedly racist British National Party is disturbingly on the rise in working class and deprived areas as they fee the sting of racism against them in their own country.

We need racism legislation, but things have gone waaaay too far.

 

[mayk]

We need racism legislation, but things have gone waaaay too far.

Agree. It is just an extreme overreaction to the racial segregation days of the past. The pendulum has to swing to the extreme left, before going back to its equilibrium (neutral) position.

 

[wayneL]

FWIW - A poll from the daily Mail:

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Racism is always having to say you are sorry.

gg

 

[Calliope]

A Brisbane disk jockey has been attacked by the usual suspects for criticising Muslim women who wear the Islamic hijab in public. No doubt he is not very bright, but he said religion was not good enough reason "to be covered from head to toe". He has been accused of "a clear case of intolerance" "trying to incite more bigotry" etc.

I would have thought that the reason Muslim women are wearing this gear (which must be very uncomfortable) is because their men make them. The anti free-speech bigots would be far better employed trying to free them from their bondage.

 

[Whiskers]

I got the following in an email recently. Can't say I dissagree with it. The x was a picture of Michael Richards.​

I have been wondering about why Whites are racists, and no other race is......

Proud to be White​

Michael Richards, better known as Kramer from TVs Seinfeld does make a good point. This was his defense speech in court after making racial comments in his comedy act. He makes some very interesting points....​

“There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, tc... And then there are just Americans.
You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,' 'Whitey,' 'Caveman'.... and that's OK..​

But when I call you, Ni**er, Coon, Towel Head, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, Paki, Indian or Chink -you call me a racist.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you... so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

You have the United Negro College Fund. Martin Luther King Day... Black History Month… Cesar Chavez Day. You have Yom Hashoah. You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi. ​

You have the NAACP. You have BET.... ​

If we had WET (White Entertainment Television), we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists. ​

If we had White History Month, we'd be racists.​

If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance'OUR lives, we'd be racists.​

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce. Wonder who pays for that??​

A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.​

If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships... You know - we'd be racists.​

There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US .. Yet if there were 'White Colleges', that would be a racist college.​

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.​

You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.​

You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black or Indian drug dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.​

I am proud.... But you call me a racist.​

Why is it that only whites can be racists??​

There is nothing improper about this e-mail.. Let's see which of you are proud enough to send it on. I sadly don't think many will. That's why we have LOST most of OUR RIGHTS in this country. We won't stand up for ourselves!​

BE PROUD TO BE WHITE!​

It's not a crime YET.... but getting very close!​

It is estimated that ONLY 5%​

of those reaching this point in this e-mail, will pass it on.​

I don’t know who decided 5% ?? I think most will.​

​

 

[Miner]

I think racism is purely a sign of ignorance and most cunningly cultivated political word to suit at site.

When you are in South Africa. calling a white is not a racism. But in USA calling any thing black is a racism. So do not call Black coffee.

In Australia - racism is a joke. Aboriginals can call you White Fella. You suck and no racism there. But you call an aborigine is a racism. No black or white. So we are calling them Indigeneous. This is a racism by politics.

Come to Britain - call Paki a racist slur. But it is a joke too.

Come to Canada specially where I am now - racism is not so much seen or felt. You have druggists who are of all colours. No one call you by your nationality or even ask. Still the undercurrent if you are English then they will hate you. There are lot of Sikhs originated from India. They have formed their own colony where White Canadians are treated as foreigners. That is also a racism but politically you can not say so. Also a subdued racism considering most of white Canadian formed British Columbia and came from England.

South Africans hate Australians and vice versa - is racism or fanatism.

You disallow Burqah in Australia and that is racism . But in Saudi during Ramadan you can not eat or drink . You will be executed probably. That is by Islam and not a racism.

To me Racism is in one's mind and as some one said. It is expression of own fear.

 

[Julia]

South Africans hate Australians and vice versa - is racism or fanatism.

I've known a lot of South Africans and have never once found that. They fit in here really well.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Racism is never having to say you are sorry.

gg

 

[McLovin]

I've known a lot of South Africans and have never once found that. They fit in here really well.

In London there is a fairly big divide between South Africans and Australians. That said, one of the best friends I have from my time over there is South African. I don't what the source of the tension was but it's noticeable.