What does Money Mean to You?

[visual]

Snake,
sorry, were you talking philosofically when you defended the right of mt to go off topic.

 

[Mrs Mallins]

Dear me. Moneytree, you need a cup of tea and a good lie down. Those words used often in US sit com's come to mind as useful advice - 'Settle' and 'Back off'.

Money for me is a necessary component to buy more wool to knit - but there is only so much wool an old lady can use -- the old hands you know. (Old hands is the reason to take up knitting air!)

I only need a bit to live comfortably at home with a good computer and Internet connection, TV, sound system - and an adequatly equipped kitchen and a comfory bed. Need some money put by to ensure those comforts well into the future. Don't like travelling much anymore. Like going to concerts but for me most tickets are free as a post career benefit; I worked for years in low paying demanding but spiritually rewarding arts practice development.

I have little need for gross amounts of money. If I had gross amounts I'd revisit some old fine music and opera projects that couldn't continue for want of cash then but for which there is more public punter support now.

 

[money tree]

police!

arrest that man.

he went off on a tangent.

Throw him in Guantanamo bay with the rest of the evil-doers!

I can just imagine the conversation between the inmates:

"so what you in for?"

"I was on this forum, and I went off on a tangent.....man am I remorseful!"

new legislation passed:

anyone who strays off topic even slighly will be hung from the gallows.

oops, better get back on topic before the men in black take me away....

10. those who are too ignorant to know when they are being ripped off, deserve it

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

Snake,
sorry, were you talking philosofically when you defended the right of mt to go off topic.

Does he have a right to go off on a tangent now?

Make up your mind!

 

[clowboy]

well just got home from work and this thread has been movely along at a rapid pace.


About the only real post that had any importance was the first post by money tree.

Maybee slightly off topic but useful information that made me stop and think.


Pity about the other 10 minutes I wasted reading the rest of the posts.

 

[Julia]

Hi Bullmarket,


Would money really matter if we all understood our existence for what it really is?
Look at the universe, and then think, are we unique? Or are we just here to work for money?

Hi Snake,

Well, that returns our sense of perspective doesn't it. I'm sure we could all benefit from attempting to retain some measure of objectivity about our own circumstances. You'd probably agree, though, that often this is easier said than done. It's not that easy to separate out one's emotional and personal motives from the intellectual appreciation of the bigger picture. Nonetheless, you've provided a useful reminder of what we can aspire too.

Cheers

Julia

 

[ghotib]

...Like going to concerts but for me most tickets are free as a post career benefit; I worked for years in low paying demanding but spiritually rewarding arts practice development.

I have little need for gross amounts of money. If I had gross amounts I'd revisit some old fine music and opera projects that couldn't continue for want of cash then but for which there is more public punter support now.

Hey, another opera fan!!! Good One

If I stop to think what money means to me I get confused about what money actually is - which is nothing more than a social agreement. So I focus on what I want to do and how to match that with money available or obtainable. Step one is ensure that capital is growing, even on bad stock market days and days when I'm completely caught up in real life. That's enough for me to worry about.

Ghoti

 

[doctorj]

There are plenty of little sayings that begin along the lines of 'life is like a book'. I can't recall the exact wording, but a version I heard of it one day went the along the lines of life being a book, with each experience a new page.

I figure we're only passing through so I'd like to experience as much as I can while I'm here. Unfortunately money will make the difference between my life being a picture book of experience or a multivolume encyclopaedia, so here I am...

 

[ob1kenobi]

I had a Franciscan education at school (Brisbane). So I grew up with St. Francis of Assisi as a role model. For me, money is a tool. There are too many other things in life and in the world that is far more precious to me than money.

 

[sandik17]

'making money' for me is 'excitement'. Watching my share value improve offers a sense of pride I suppose, but also adrenaline.
What money means to me....is stability.

 

[Duckman#72]

"Because the property was negatively geared, you have been claiming depreciation all these years and the written down value is actually $100k.

Because the property was negatively geared, you have been claiming depreciation all these years and the written down value is actually $70k.

Tree

I can understand your point but you take things to the extreme.

The capital allowance or building write-off that I assume you are referring to with your example of depreciation claims doesn't always have to be deducted from cost base of the property. That only pertains to properties purchased in the last couple of years after changes to the legislation.

As I see it a rental property purchased in 1988 and sold in 2004 would have had eighteen years of 2.5% building write off claim (based on construction cost) without affecting the cost base one cent on sale.

Duckman

 

[Fleeta]

OK so here is my philosophy on money:

1. it does not make you happy
2. the more you have, the less happy you are
3. you never have enough
4. nothing starts more arguments
5. its hard to aquire and too easy to lose
6. the people who worry about it 24/7 and have every thought dictated by money motives are not truly alive
7. those who make public statements about charity are usually the tightwads who give nothing. true charity is anonymous
8. those who make the most effort to appear rich are the ones who are struggling.
9. those who have it and wish to keep it dont flaunt it.
10. those who dont have it, dont really care

Ouch! I think most of us have seen these things in action. In fact I can match most of these up with people I know. Unfortunately, I could be number 6 and also number 9!!! I really hate the people who are number 7's and I pity those that are number 8's - or trying to 'keep up with the Jones''

I read a book recently called 'Affluenza'. I can't remember who wrote it but it is a fantastic book about how much of a materialistic and consumer driven culture we have become, which has resulted in a decline of community spirit. For example, people no longer have time to spend with their kids, so they just buy them more stuff...it can't go on like this.

For me, money = time. I want to have more time to do the things I want to do, therefore money helps me to pay for the things I don't want to do (i.e. cook, clean, wait for a train, etc.) and also adds convenience to my life. My main aim in life is to live off passive income...then I don't need to work. Then I can devote my time to writing books, doing bad stand-up comedy, playing bad music, playing shocking golf and numerous other things I like to do that I'm not good enough to get paid for.

The other thing I don't get is people who constantly 'shop'. What is that? How is it enjoyable?

 

[clowboy]

The other thing I don't get is people who constantly 'shop'. What is that? How is it enjoyable?

Fleeta I think that's that materialistic thing setting in again

 

[Julia]

Hi Fleeta

Hope you're staying warm over there.

There have actually been a number of serious studies done on compulsive shopping. You may not be surprised to know that this affects mostly women. The similarly unsurprising finding of these studies is that the compulsive need to buy more and more is directly related to the degree of insecurity or lack of self worth of the individual.

Now, before any of you blokes start telling your wives and girlfriends that if they want to buy something new, it's an indication of a psychological problem, the sort of level of purchasing in these studies was such that debts were incurred way beyond the person's capacity to repay, and even understanding that, the people concerned were unable to stop their buying.

Apparently in its most serious form, it is regarded as an addiction like any other, e.g. alcohol, gambling etc.

Julia

 

[Smurf1976]

I read a book recently called 'Affluenza'. I can't remember who wrote it but it is a fantastic book about how much of a materialistic and consumer driven culture we have become, which has resulted in a decline of community spirit. For example, people no longer have time to spend with their kids, so they just buy them more stuff...it can't go on like this.

Worst of all are those "I don't spend much time with the kids but it's "quality time"" types. One of the most common acts of denial IMO.

 

[money tree]

1. it does not make you happy
2. the more you have, the less happy you are
3. you never have enough
4. nothing starts more arguments
5. its hard to aquire and too easy to lose
6. the people who worry about it 24/7 and have every thought dictated by money motives are not truly alive
7. those who make public statements about charity are usually the tightwads who give nothing. true charity is anonymous
8. those who make the most effort to appear rich are the ones who are struggling.
9. those who have it and wish to keep it dont flaunt it.
10. those who dont have it, dont really care

10 yrs ago, I was a #6. This caused me to be a #4 with my ex, who was an #8. This resulting in #1 for both of us.

These days Im no longer a #6, #4 or a #1. I am now a cross between #10 and #9, though I would like to be a #3

 

[Julia]

1. it does not make you happy
2. the more you have, the less happy you are
3. you never have enough
4. nothing starts more arguments
5. its hard to aquire and too easy to lose
6. the people who worry about it 24/7 and have every thought dictated by money motives are not truly alive
7. those who make public statements about charity are usually the tightwads who give nothing. true charity is anonymous
8. those who make the most effort to appear rich are the ones who are struggling.
9. those who have it and wish to keep it dont flaunt it.
10. those who dont have it, dont really care

10 yrs ago, I was a #6. This caused me to be a #4 with my ex, who was an #8. This resulting in #1 for both of us.

These days Im no longer a #6, #4 or a #1. I am now a cross between #10 and #9, though I would like to be a #3

Why would you like to be a #3? Perhaps I've interpreted this one incorrectly, but it sounds to me like someone who will never stop running after more and more money which doesn't sound all that healthy to me.

Julia

 

[bullmarket]

Hi Julia

yes agree with your

Why would you like to be a #3? Perhaps I've interpreted this one incorrectly, but it sounds to me like someone who will never stop running after more and more money which doesn't sound all that healthy to me.

I'm also not sure what point he's trying to make with #7 either. There are many well known and successful celebrities, sports people and business people who donate to and speak about the work they do for various charities close to them in order to try to generate more support. I don't see anything wrong with that at all.

cheers

bullmarket

 

[nizar]

Hi Julia

yes agree with your



I'm also not sure what point he's trying to make with #7 either. There are many well known and successful celebrities, sports people and business people who donate to and speak about the work they do for various charities close to them in order to try to generate more support. I don't see anything wrong with that at all.

cheers

bullmarket

i see exactly the point about #7..

its better to be generous and give money to charity and be anonymous..

that means u juz wanna share ur wealth to those who are not as fortunate as u... if ur name is published or u make it a public issue that u donated, that means ur giving money juz 2 be known as ie. famous for being "generous" even tho the reason ur giving is for ur own benefit, that is, for fame..

i know that whether its anonymous or not the money will help ppl, 2 be purely giving without any thing in return is much better, instead of giving 2 get fame or a generous name in return..

juz my opinion

 

[bullmarket]

Hi nizar

no problem.....I can see the point you are making but imo it is a very cynical view as I believe only a very small minority would donate to charities for the reasons you gave, but I accept it could happen in a very small number of cases.

I believe that the overwhelming majority of people who donate their time, money or whatever to charities close to them and speak publically about it do it for the sole purpose of highlighting the chartities and their needs to the general public with the hope it will generate more support and hence more donations that otherwise would not have been received by those charities had the general public not been made aware of their existance and/or needs.

cheers

bullmarket