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Thanks JTLP. Brendan O'Neill has some advice for these twsted souls.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...n-war-on-whalers/story-e6frgd0x-1226243925289
Calliope you always get the thumbs up from me.
I seriously believe people who have a Green agenda are chemically imbalanced. Not a joke. They are seriously twisted souls.
But there is something unsettling about people who make it their mission to curry international disgust for foreign cultural practices they either don't understand or don't like.
You don't like whale-hunting? Then don't do it. You don't like the idea of whale meat? Then don't eat it. But please stop branding as cruel, perverse, heartless and foul those people who have been doing such things for generations, and who think it is perfectly normal behaviour.
nioka, You say you worked on several stations. What type of whale were you involved with?
Good and valid question, smurf;Does man have to hunt, chop down, dam, farm or dig up literally every single resource on the planet?
Seriously, just leave the whales alone. Does man have to hunt, chop down, dam, farm or dig up literally every single resource on the planet? Leave the whales alone, they don't seem to be doing any harm as it is.
Cultural connections
Dugongs are an essential element of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people's living maritime culture along the Great Barrier Reef World Heritage Area. The use of marine food resources such as the dugong greatly strengthens Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander culture and demonstrates connection with traditional sea country.
The activities associated with the hunting of dugong and preparing and sharing the meat has great significance and is an expression of the continuance of long cultural traditions. In remote coast areas, dugongs have a high social and economic value because they provide subsistence food to communities where a nourishing diet is essential but often expensive to attain.
Yeah, but why pick on the Japanese. Harvesting whales is a cultural thing for the Japanese. We are happy to ignore the "cultural" harvesting of the seriously endangered dugong here in Australia.
http://www.gbrmpa.gov.au/about-the-reef/animals/dugong
Calliopes, your argument is irrelevant as the International Whaling Commission actually allows whaling for "aboriginal subsistence" purposes.
Whaling has been an important part of Japanese society for over 1,000 years. Recently, however, it has come under fire from countries and organizations who strongly oppose this practice. It is important to be familiar with the history of whaling in Japan if one wants to fully understand the issue.
Your views are obviously based on racial hatred of the Japanese. We don't tolerate other peoples cultures very well. The Japanese were whalers when your ancestors lived in caves. The International Whaling Commission is a waste of space.
when your ancestors lived in caves
The Japanese are slow learners when it comes to democracy , it took two atomic bombs before they surrendered their world supremacy plans.
hmm - that is an "interesting" statement.The Japanese are slow learners when it comes to democracy , it took two atomic bombs before they surrendered their world supremacy plans.
+1The way we handle our own "cultures " is our own business. It doesn't give us the right to dictate that other people of other races change their cultures to accommodate our selfish whims. If the Japanese had our unlimited natural resources they might switch their diets to one we agree with. Like eating more beef, which costs huge natural resources to produce.
I abhor the cruelty with which the Japanese treat the whales. I have the same level of abhorrence for any cruelty by any person of any race toward any animal, including the aboriginal sport of hunting dugong.Your views are obviously based on racial hatred of the Japanese. We don't tolerate other peoples cultures very well. The Japanese were whalers when your ancestors lived in caves.
I'm sure McQuack can defend himself. But I find this statement unreasonable and quite offensive. As above, I'm also opposed to whaling but don't consider that makes me xenophobic.No doubt you would like to repeat the dose. You show all the symptoms of xenophobia.
I abhor the cruelty with which the Japanese treat the whales. I have the same level of abhorrence for any cruelty by any person of any race toward any animal, including the aboriginal sport of hunting dugong.
Does that make me someone who is nursing a racial hatred of pretty much every race?
I'm sure McQuack can defend himself. But I find this statement unreasonable and quite offensive. As above, I'm also opposed to whaling but don't consider that makes me xenophobic.
I enjoy many of your observations, Calliope, but sometimes wonder why you seem to be unnecessarily nasty.
So Australia's anti-whalers have successfully rehabilitated what many of us considered to be long-dead prejudices against the Japanese.
Echoing World War II propaganda that tended to depict the Japanese as uniquely wicked - far more weirdly sadistic than the Germans, say - the Sea Shepherd website informs us that the whaling carried out in the Southern Ocean is "cruel and barbaric, a gross sadistic perversion".
A columnist for The Courier-Mail once lamented the "uncivilised barbarity" of that whaling nation of Japan, in contrast to Australia, which is "a civilised nation of pet-lovers".
Here, the issue of whaling is openly used to advertise the decency of white folk who own puppies over yellow people who scoff whale meat.
Unless someone is hunting for food because they have no alternative food source, it's sport as far as I'm concerned.I've no idea. Incidentally the islanders do no hunt the dugong for "sport." They eat them.
I'm sure we're all aware of the definition of xenophobic.Xenophobe; "A person unduly fearful or contemptuous of that which is foreign, especially of strangers or foreign peoples."
Unless someone is hunting for food because they have no alternative food source, it's sport as far as I'm concerned.
Are you suggesting that if they didn't hunt the dugong they would starve?[
Dugongs are an essential element of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people's living maritime culture along the Great Barrier Reef World Heritage Area. The use of marine food resources such as the dugong greatly strengthens Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander culture and demonstrates connection with traditional sea country.
The activities associated with the hunting of dugong and preparing and sharing the meat has great significance and is an expression of the continuance of long cultural traditions. In remote coast areas, dugongs have a high social and economic value because they provide subsistence food to communities where a nourishing diet is essential but often expensive to attain.
I'm sure we're all aware of the definition of xenophobic.
The issue is nothing to do with foreign cultures and everything to do with unnecessary cruelty.
The Japanese would beg to differ, Julia. And on their behalf, so would I.The issue is nothing to do with foreign cultures and everything to do with unnecessary cruelty.
I would also reject as presumptuous any attempts to deny Indigenous peoples the right to continue hunting whichever animals they have been hunting for generations. For their tribal subsistence that is, and only in the confines of their tribal life; not for sport, tourism, or commercial gain.
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