Kinda the other way 'round these days. We can't get apprentices to start in my trade, and if they do start, they don't last long.Agree also governments ran down training centres and farmed apprentice training out to private enterprise the last company I worked for we fought tooth and nail for them to hire a single E/I apprentice place had a annual operational budget of $350 mil...
Yep, I remember when I was seconded to help write the competency standards, I said to management this is the beginning of the end for the high standard Australian tradesmen are held in. It was a disgrace IMO.Agree also governments ran down training centres and farmed apprentice training out to private enterprise the last company I worked for we fought tooth and nail for them to hire a single E/I apprentice place had a annual operational budget of $350 mil...
Yes, I was at a meeting with the manager of a major power station and he actually said we are going to severely reduce the number of apprentices we employ, I said at the time Australia will rue the day it took this direction and as I mentioned above, we commenced writing the competency standards project.Agree also governments ran down training centres and farmed apprentice training out to private enterprise the last company I worked for we fought tooth and nail for them to hire a single E/I apprentice place had a annual operational budget of $350 mil...
in 1975 Gough Whitlem signed the Lima declaration ending Australian sovereignty and kick starting globalisation. this of course took several years to come in to effect ending there manufacturing side and turning the economy in to a services bases economy, restructuring how companies do business.hence government work places still use enterprise agreements and private business its an open market economyApprenticeships has been an ongoing issue for a long time, its demise has been three fold, one was the closing of a lot of Government facilities e.g the Midland railway workshops, they took on 800 apprentices a year and two the contracting out of maintenance and three fifo.
The mining towns that were established in the 1960' and 1970's held the full compliment of the workforce and the families of the workers, so inevitably children of the workers did apprenticeships in the mine workshops.
most thing in mining is labor hire as companies dont look any further than 3 months ahead. the management of labor is beyond a jokeNow with fifo, that consistency of a stable community has gone, a majority of the workforce doesn't live there, major works are now done via shutdowns as opposed to ongoing daily maintenance workforce and the community no longer is employed by a single or a couple of major mining companies. From memory, the fifo workforce came about with the introduction of fringe benefits tax, which made it more attractive to fly a workforce in, than house them and pay fringe benefits tax.
Hopefully things go a complete circle, as with a carbon tax the cost of flying may be even more expensive, also with the advent of massive renewable projects in the NW of W.A a labour force close by may be required.
C'mon Mate. Who on earth wouldn't want to give up FIFO and live in places like Meekathera? I mean what a fantastic place to raise a young family. On weekends you could even take the kids to visit Wiluna.in 1975 Gough Whitlem signed the Lima declaration ending Australian sovereignty and kick starting globalisation. this of course took several years to come in to effect ending there manufacturing side and turning the economy in to a services bases economy, restructuring how companies do business.hence government work places still use enterprise agreements and private business its an open market economy
most thing in mining is labor hire as companies dont look any further than 3 months ahead. the management of labor is beyond a joke
in the late 2000s the bhp, rio tints lobbied the government allowing the change of work place laws to keep employees casual as a way to scare wages down and allow the exploitation of industry and business at the expense of the employee
they won't get people back to living in town as they are dumps and mining companies put little money in to them. they dont pay any added incentive to stay in them and little job security, so what's the point in making the sacrifice in moving the family up to one.
the money as I said earlier is still lower than a decade ago whilst the incompetent muppets who work in the ivory towers collect there largely over boated pay packets for out sourcing most things and never bing held to account for there incompetence
That is true triangle, but Australia can't develop unless those places are inhabited, I know it is better to live in Perth but that just isn't sustainable in the long run.C'mon Mate. Who on earth wouldn't want to give up FIFO and live in places like Meekathera? I mean what a fantastic place to raise a young family. On weekends you could even take the kids to visit Wiluna.
There is a lot to be said for a person going home from work to a family every day, the major drawback with fifo is the intimacy between partners is lost and the fifo worker coming home disrupts the household and also has limited time to fit in to the family structure.....All these Perth based clowns think FIFO causes depression and suicides clearly never lived in a small mining or industrial town....
Nothing has changed in that regard, when I started my apprenticeship in 1969 I was on $17.32/wk, before I started my apprenticeship but had finished school.A mining tradesman with at least 5 years in mining could reasonably expect to earn $65/hour + super right now without having to look too hard. That's darn good money, and there are plenty of people willing to take apprentices - what there is a short supply of is people willing to be an apprentice when they could be a laborer and make more money. But I agree the industry and government could do better with apprentices, they need to advertise and market the benefits and how it works to small employers.
A mate was an air legger and was paid on the teams tonnage, he was on about $1,500/fortnight, this was in 1972, he bought a 750 Norton Commando with a pay cheque.
Sooo many Nazis.If only the parliamentary opposition wasn't full of total incompetents.
If only the parliamentary opposition wasn't full of total incompetents.
Sooo many Nazis.
Who would of thought that yesterday's hippy antivaxxer was today's far right qanon worshipper.
Maybe the media can whip up some more hysteria and convert a few more to the cause
Governments should just ignore protesters. Let them protest and say nothing. If they get unruly then send in the police. Chancellor McGowan and his henchman should have kept their mouths shut as going after even a small section of your population with criticism is never is a good idea. Mcgowan can go door to door to get people to vote for him, maybe he should go door to door locally explaining why people should get vaccinated? Better yet fly off to an aboriginal community (haha, yeah right unless he has twiggy to hold his hand for the photo-shoots) Would probably get him a lot of votes and a lot of headlines. No one is going to attack the man, and if they do - he is ex-navy so he should be able to fight back.If only the parliamentary opposition wasn't full of total incompetents.
hope your being sarcastic in that post?C'mon Mate. Who on earth wouldn't want to give up FIFO and live in places like Meekathera? I mean what a fantastic place to raise a young family. On weekends you could even take the kids to visit Wiluna.
....All these Perth based clowns think FIFO causes depression and suicides clearly never lived in a small mining or industrial town....
A mining tradesman with at least 5 years in mining could reasonably expect to earn $65/hour + super right now without having to look too hard. That's darn good money, and there are plenty of people willing to take apprentices - what there is a short supply of is people willing to be an apprentice when they could be a laborer and make more money. But I agree the industry and government could do better with apprentices, they need to advertise and market the benefits and how it works to small employers.
People upset about mandates and travel, still vax rates (indigenous still 30%) due to hit 90% Feb.
NSW right leaning?Vax rates in nsw are running above 90%.
Should hit 95% or above. I would say a good number of those protesters are probably vaccinated.
So Australia's most right leaning state has over 90% vaccinations. I doubt we are in for much of a problem.
Unless of course we politicise the whole event like dictator dkhead did down in Melbourne. Along with rags like the age, guardian and newscorp.
This whole thing is more a culmination of being locked down for the last 2 years. And governments going beyond what should have been acceptable.
Got to agree. The Overton Window is so far left that even Pol Pot would be considered a right wing nut job these days </hyperbole...but almost not really>NSW right leaning?
more like centre left!
the LNP, Labor are not right or even conservative any more
The Overton Window is a variable policy space in all directions, so to say it leans left means you do not understand what it is.Got to agree. The Overton Window is so far left that even Pol Pot would be considered a right wing nut job these days </hyperbole...but almost not really>
Got to agree. The Overton Window is so far left that even Pol Pot would be considered a right wing nut job these days </hyperbole...but almost not really>
I did indicate it was hyperbole, but even so, Pol Pot was a Marxist.The left are about having a social conscience, Pol Pot didn't quite meet that criteria.
Certainly there have been some progress in some social areas but workers rights and employment conditions have been undermined terribly.
The real threats are security laws and secret government brought in by conservative governments.
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