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Thought it would be Labor at a canter this lost is more than just Labors successful response to COVID, state Libs have had problems for quite some time as the Christian right have taken over the power broker positions in the party.
Reflected in their election campaign from start to finish.

The problem is also reflected in the federal party as well to a lesser degree.
 
As an outsider who's never lived in WA I won't claim to be well informed on local politics but from what I've seen, the Liberals' policy platform looked like something straight out of some school kid's "if I were PM for a day I'd do....." project.

Ideas randomly thrown around with no thought put into how they'd be implemented, what the cost would be or even if it was physically possible. Stuff that would be impressive if it came from a 9 year old, not at all impressive coming from a real politician who wants to run a state. :2twocents
 
Smurf1976 said:
As an outsider who's never lived in WA I won't claim to be well informed on local politics but from what I've seen, the Liberals' policy platform looked like something straight out of some school kid's "if I were PM for a day I'd do....." project.

Ideas randomly thrown around with no thought put into how they'd be implemented, what the cost would be or even if it was physically possible. Stuff that would be impressive if it came from a 9 year old, not at all impressive coming from a real politician who wants to run a state. :2twocents
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I have to agree. Not much in the way of opposition. Which can be a good thing at the start as Labor can get their policy across. Unfortunately that much power eventually corrupts. Turns the state into a mess once the factions get greedy.
 
W.A Liberals have been lost since Barnett retired, not much of a talent pool.
Having said that McGowan is a stand out for Labor also, the really fortunate thing for Labor is he is still relatively young and seems to be moderate in his appraoch which is resonating well with most West Aussies.
The Libs certainly need to do do some soul searching, I predict a long time in the wilderness.
 
Goes to show just how weak the Federal Labor party is doesn't it?

Both WA and QLD return a state Labor govt yet federally they're almost unwinnable.

Might be a good time to revise the climate change narrative and stand up for working people again :)
 
PZ99 said:
Goes to show just how weak the Federal Labor party is doesn't it?

Both WA and QLD return a state Labor govt yet federally they're almost unwinnable.

Might be a good time to revise the climate change narrative and stand up for working people again :)
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They need fresh talent. Too much of a stench on what's there.


They could take some lessons from McGowan. One of the best for a while. He doesn't treat small business as the enemy either.

Qld labor however, seems to hold power due to a lack of opposition.
 
SirRumpole said:
You could say the same for NSW only it's the opposite sides.
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I think Bjiggles is doing a good job. She has a lot of infrastructure going on and handled Covid lockdown/business/freedom the best imo. I don't think she gets enough credit for running the shithouse that is nsw government.

However there are some rats amongst nsw state libs that I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.
Labors corruption from yesteryears still hasn't been forgotten and there are still deep connections that would quickly tap back in. It was really a sht show when they were running it. I actually moved states it was that bad.
 
moXJO said:
I think Bjiggles is doing a good job. She has a lot of infrastructure going on and handled Covid lockdown/business/freedom the best imo. I don't think she gets enough credit for running the shithouse that is nsw government.

However there are some rats amongst nsw state libs that I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire.
Labors corruption from yesteryears still hasn't been forgotten and there are still deep connections that would quickly tap back in. It was really a sht show when they were running it. I actually moved states it was that bad.
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I don't disagree.

I live in NSW and don't even know know who the Opposition leader is. I think it's a woman but that's about all.

The pandemic has taken the wind out of all the Opposition's sails. Albo is probably thanking his starts that the next Fed election will probably be next year, he's got a lot of distance to make up.
 
SirRumpole said:
I don't disagree.

I live in NSW and don't even know know who the Opposition leader is. I think it's a woman but that's about all.

The pandemic has taken the wind out of all the Opposition's sails. Albo is probably thanking his starts that the next Fed election will probably be next year, he's got a lot of distance to make up.
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NSW opposition leader is nothing short of awful. Basically a Labor female version of Tony Abbott.

I haven't voted NSW Labor for at least a decade.
 
moXJO said:
They need fresh talent. Too much of a stench on what's there.


They could take some lessons from McGowan. One of the best for a while. He doesn't treat small business as the enemy either.

Qld labor however, seems to hold power due to a lack of opposition.
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He doesn't treat small business as the enemy either. LOL. Have you walked down the Terrace recently? Seen the commercial vacancy stats.
Mcgowan is a Covid Premier, nothing more, nothing less. He will be gone next election as soon as something of substance is required.
WA makes up less than 20% of the countries population and is the least politically educated state by a mile.
 
Clansman said:
He doesn't treat small business as the enemy either. LOL. Have you walked down the Terrace recently? Seen the commercial vacancy stats.
Mcgowan is a Covid Premier, nothing more, nothing less. He will be gone next election as soon as something of substance is required.
WA makes up less than 20% of the countries population and is the least politically educated state by a mile.
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I havnt been down the CBD for years but its my understanding it was quiet before the covid.I asked my local kebab shop owner a couple of weeks ago,hows business?he said "flat out".
4 years is a long way off, but Mcgowan is looking like a 3 termer,the wa Libs seemed to have reduced themselves to a checks and balances party.
 
Caveman said:
,the wa Libs seemed to have reduced themselves to a checks and balances party.
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They may not have much balance when they check how many of them there are. :cool:

It would be interesting to hear what McGowan's plans are beyond covid though, just to make sure he's not a one trick pony.
 
SirRumpole said:
They may not have much balance when they check how many of them there are. :cool:

It would be interesting to hear what McGowan's plans are beyond covid though, just to make sure he's not a one trick pony.
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To me he appears to be fairly middle of the road, which is good, he obviously has some strong ideas and IMO it will be how they resonate with the public that will dictate how long he stays in.
He only has to worry about self inflicted wounds, not much baggage, not much opposition.
So he really will be a master of his own destiny, if brain farts start exploding, he will be gone.
The only current issue that could damage him is the Roe Hwy, many want it finished a small vocal group want it squashed, how he handles it will define this term and probably his next election result IMO.
 
SirRumpole said:
They may not have much balance when they check how many of them there are. :cool:

It would be interesting to hear what McGowan's plans are beyond covid though, just to make sure he's not a one trick pony.
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Last time I checked closing a door wasn't a trick?
It's a fairly straight forward exercise that most humans achieve at a young age.
 
Clansman said:
He doesn't treat small business as the enemy either. LOL. Have you walked down the Terrace recently? Seen the commercial vacancy stats.
Mcgowan is a Covid Premier, nothing more, nothing less. He will be gone next election as soon as something of substance is required.
WA makes up less than 20% of the countries population and is the least politically educated state by a mile.
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Hey I could be totally wrong. I'm going off second hand information.
 
Mandurah is thumping so is Wanneroo cannot get a tradesman to come around every business I speak to are going flat out, biggest issue is supply chain everyone is sold out.

Houses are selling within a week the place is floating on money

As for Perth CBD the council was for a very long time before Labor so dysfunctional / corrupt no wonder the centre is a mess.

Wasn't it Labor that threw them out?

BTW I don't think the current mob (council) are much better.

There's not much day light between Barny and McGowan except Labor are paying down the debt and Metronet.

McGowan's hard border stance has kept the mines / oil and gas running that's kept Australia afloat a point largely over looked.
 
From this side of the continent it looks like the premier makes no bones about putting WA first.

I like the idea of the Govt there telling Gladys Ruby Princess and Clive Palmer to stick it where it fits :)

You guys gonna build a wall ?
 
PZ99 said:
From this side of the continent it looks like the premier makes no bones about putting WA first.

I like the idea of the Govt there telling Gladys Ruby Princess and Clive Palmer to stick it where it fits :)

You guys gonna build a wall ?
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Perth is one of the most isolated city's in the world and WA are as parochial as all hell complete with chip on shoulder particularly the older generation.

Charley Court (long serving Liberal premiere) used to win elections by attacking Canberra no matter who was in federal government.

So closing the boarder is hugely popular and every time Gladys or pretty much anyone from over east has a go its easy vote scoring for McGowan to fire off a salvo.

Having said that ordinary citizen's from the east are always warmly welcome.

With the border closed WA's drug problem (and its a big one) has been really impacted for the better

As for Palmer he could have a problem if he comes into the state (seriously) people hate him with real anger.

The federal Liberals could be in trouble next election, plus just cannot see Porter holding his seat
 
Western Australia has effectively become a foreign country as far as the rest of Australia is concerned, as ipso facto, you will need a visa, stating your vaccination status to enter.

Perth used to be known the city of light back in the days of the Apollo program. Most assuredly the whole of Western Australia has now entered a new dark age.

For now we have some semblance of Liberty, but the inevitability of a mild respiratory disease once again taking hold, McStalin will not hesitate the opportunity to unleash the complete dystopia the rest of you are having to endure.

Just remember, if you want to keep your fingernails, 2 + 2 = 5, Komrades.
 
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