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Astonishingly, there is still a grass roots core of true classical liberals (in the English sense), despite the parliamentary party quite deservedly being decimated.

I'm actually thinking of joining the party, just so I can be expelled for giving the establishment goons a farkin spray.

Though my political heart resides elsewhere now (not!! Labor)
 
Astonishingly, there is still a grass roots core of true classical liberals (in the English sense), despite the parliamentary party quite deservedly being decimated.

I'm actually thinking of joining the party, just so I can be expelled for giving the establishment goons a farkin spray.

Though my political heart resides elsewhere now (not!! Labor)
Love it. Would love to se you going had to head with The Hyphen
 
Love it. Would love to se you going had to head with The Hyphen
Wayne though I may appear as a labour voter/follower it is more of who our elected Rep is that is of more interst to me. If i feel he/she is worthy of my vote that's where it goes either of the majors or was until the Libs fell on their collective swords.
 
Love it. Would love to se you going had to head with The Hyphen
Wayne though I may appear as a labour voter/follower it is more of who our elected Rep is that is of more interst to me. If i feel he/she is worthy of my vote that's where it goes either of the majors or was until the Libs fell on their collective swords.
 
Wayne though I may appear as a labour voter/follower it is more of who our elected Rep is that is of more interst to me. If i feel he/she is worthy of my vote that's where it goes either of the majors or was until the Libs fell on their collective swords.
For some reason beyond my limited knowledge this post just doubled up.
 
I'm considering somewhere with greater liberty... Maybe North Korea? Myanmar? Iran?

 
Maybe shoulda pur this in the Voice thread...

Thread ?


It is all getting weird IMO, maybe we should just have an indigenous body, that sits above the upper house and can check and veto as they see fit.
Seems like we are moving toward that situation anyway, so facilitating the passage might be the way forward, then we at least have measurable outcomes to see if it is workable.
Then if it is successful move forward with changing the constitution, I'm sure Pete and Lisa could help organise it, they seem to across most issues and there is always some of the more eloquent ASF posters who could chip in with the vague and elusive wording. :roflmao:

On a serious note, it is starting to look like a chair shuffling exercise, to position the Governments to be able to offload the cost of the indigenous issues to those who they feel can most afford it.
That would really help the budget bottom lines, it will be interesting to see how or if this unfolds, on a national scale IMO. ;)
 
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Farmers in Western Australia are furious about sweeping new cultural heritage laws from 01/07/2023 that will require them to pay an Aboriginal consultant up to $160 an hour to obtain permits to do anything on their land that might disturb more than 50 centimetres of soil.

It is interesting, when you consider they don't have a voice and no one can hear them, they seem to get an awful lot done for a sector of the community that is totally ignored apparently.:2twocents
 
Heads up for the rest of Australia, it's coming to a State near you, great pick up Wayne. :roflmao:

It will be interesting to see if this interpretation becomes one of the issues the voice will cover, the great thing about this concept it is linked to inflation, the demands go up as the ability to afford it increases and of course when the trees die there will be another payment to replace them. Priceless. ?
Obviously there wasn't any trees alongside the river, when the Europeans arrived, that's hard to believe. :rolleyes:

It's always good when the loonies are in charge, no wonder McGowan pulled the pin, he had sense.
This is going to end badly. :roflmao:

From the article:
Amid ongoing confusion over the implementation of Western Australia’s controversial new cultural heritage laws, two major tree planting events in the state were cancelled this weekend after an Aboriginal corporation demanded $2.5 million for approval, according to a report.
Seven News reported on Sunday that the planting of 5500 shrubs and trees along Perth’s Canning River by 120 volunteers was called off, after a demand from the newly formed Whadjuk Aboriginal Corporation that any planting at sites of cultural significance along the river cease.

The body cited the Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act, which came into effect on July 1, establishing a vast new layer of bureaucracy via Local Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Services (LACHS), which are now responsible for determining whether an activity will cause “harm” to cultural heritage.
Under the new rules, penalties for damaging a cultural heritage site range from $25,000 to $1 million for individuals and $250,000 to $10 million for corporations, as well as jail time — although the state government late last month announced a 12-month “education-first” approach.

According to Seven News, Whadjuk Aboriginal Corporation chief executive David Collard told land care groups they could not proceed with the weekend’s events until a demand for $2.5 million from a $10 million river restoration fund was resolved.
 
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I guess people aren't so fond of defacto Apartheid.
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Heads up for the rest of Australia, it's coming to a State near you, great pick up Wayne. :roflmao:

It will be interesting to see if this interpretation becomes one of the issues the voice will cover, the great thing about this concept it is linked to inflation, the demands go up as the ability to afford it increases and of course when the trees die there will be another payment to replace them. Priceless. ?
Obviously there wasn't any trees alongside the river, when the Europeans arrived, that's hard to believe. :rolleyes:

It's always good when the loonies are in charge, no wonder McGowan pulled the pin, he had sense.
This is going to end badly. :roflmao:

From the article:
Amid ongoing confusion over the implementation of Western Australia’s controversial new cultural heritage laws, two major tree planting events in the state were cancelled this weekend after an Aboriginal corporation demanded $2.5 million for approval, according to a report.
Seven News reported on Sunday that the planting of 5500 shrubs and trees along Perth’s Canning River by 120 volunteers was called off, after a demand from the newly formed Whadjuk Aboriginal Corporation that any planting at sites of cultural significance along the river cease.

The body cited the Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Act, which came into effect on July 1, establishing a vast new layer of bureaucracy via Local Aboriginal Cultural Heritage Services (LACHS), which are now responsible for determining whether an activity will cause “harm” to cultural heritage.
Under the new rules, penalties for damaging a cultural heritage site range from $25,000 to $1 million for individuals and $250,000 to $10 million for corporations, as well as jail time — although the state government late last month announced a 12-month “education-first” approach.

According to Seven News, Whadjuk Aboriginal Corporation chief executive David Collard told land care groups they could not proceed with the weekend’s events until a demand for $2.5 million from a $10 million river restoration fund was resolved.

Talking to people in northern NSW saying they couldn't start a house extension without a assessment for cultural impact, the cost was fixed.

I read the guidelines for the WA stuff after my brother (retired famer) was telling me how many were up in arms about it (I didn't help told him they would take the farm as well once the Voice gets up) and it looked to me do what you like but don't damage a cultural site.
 
Talking to people in northern NSW saying they couldn't start a house extension without a assessment for cultural impact, the cost was fixed.

I read the guidelines for the WA stuff after my brother (retired famer) was telling me how many were up in arms about it (I didn't help told him they would take the farm as well once the Voice gets up) and it looked to me do what you like but don't damage a cultural site.
As I said, IMO it is all about following the money, the Feds want to move the cost off their books and the States don't want to have to pick it up, so McGowan got in first which was a great move IMO.
The Feds try to put the cost on the land owners, but the land owners are already paying for access to the State, so the Feds can't double tax. ?
 
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