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Eek. Seamisty, please don't ever go away! We just don't join in the discussion because we are lowly plebs with nothing to offer compared to your (and the others) brilliance. I have nothing to report but please don't confuse my silence with disinterest. I think you & the other contributors are just amazing and are very grateful. I look every day for new posts and report back to my Dad who doesn't have the internet and just loves that so much is being done to flush out the baddies! Please please post every snippet & opinion you think of.
Thanks DD and NOR, I'm not going anywhere soon, still much work to be done!! This cesspit is deeper than I ever imagined possible. SeamistySEAMISTY I....WE NOT ONLY LOOK UP YOUR THREAD Ist WITH GREAT INTEREST EACH DAY .ILOOK UP TO YOU..... WE ..PIF..NEED U DONT THINK OF GOING AWAY
Good Day DD,
Myself and many will enjoin in a chorus of energetic appreciation for the input by seamisty and many others into this thread over this long waiting period.
May I propose a monthly roll call by the "silent ones" to show our alertness to these inputs.
Just a "hello, I am not dozing now" will do. Or a facsimile reflecting your personal sense of participation.
April 11 may provide the jolt with the second cent finding its way back to Daddy and Mummy.
Regards,
Hi Seamisty i'm not contributing i know, though i am watching whats going on, and you and duped are keeping us well informed keep up the good work the pair of you.flatbackNOR thank you for making the effort to post on this thread. I was asked earlier today by another active fellow PIF investor to post some PIF info and I said NO because I felt I had bored/compromised and worn out other PIF investors etc. Just for the PIF record, of which I take extremely serious about for keeping future reference, I was contacted by WC today regarding some of my previous enquiries/concerns on behalf of PIF investors in relation to the on going litigation between Forest Resort developers and the former RE of our Fund (which I understand are also the same directors as our current RE). While our current RE assures me that we do not have anything to worry about re this litigation as it is 'unsubstantive' I remain extremely concerned, because I understand that the RE is indemnified, former or current, from any legal claims against our Fund. Any successfull litigation/compensation ruled against the PIF IS PAID from our assets!!!
Sorry if I continue to be a nuisance but I probablly will not go away!! Seamisty
I contacted Wellington about a month ago and expressed that although I had initially supported Wellington in their acquisition of PIF I had become disconcerted and quite cynical that they appeared to spend more time on their web site encouraging people not to sell to ALF than to inform us of updates and strategies on the fund. I also expressed by dissatisfaction that Wellington appeared to be stonewalling the class action by not providing documents.
To my surprise I think they may have taken on board what I said and posted some comments on their website denying that they had anything against the class action and that they had not held back documents. People might be more up to the minute on this but I seem to recall Wellington specifically stating they would no longer assist in the class action and therefore would not assist in any requests for information by lawyers - or is that just my imagination???
I realise people like to complain with like minded people to gain sympathy (have a look at any office politics for that) so I don't intend for this to be a wellington bashing session but rather want to be straight with the facts.
From my reading is appears ALF seems to be more and more an attractive alternative to Wellington - or is it simply jumping from the fire pan into the fire (my trust is not what it used to be). I would to see some comments for the pro's and con's from people on this forum.
It is my understanding that 'on June 24th 2009 WC agreed with the applicants to permit, facilitate and co-operate in good faith to make available for examination by nominated representatives of the applicants during normal business hours the books and the records of the Fund in the custody, possesion or control of Wellington evidencing or recording the related party transactions entered into by or on behalf of the Fund'I contacted Wellington about a month ago and expressed that although I had initially supported Wellington in their acquisition of PIF I had become disconcerted and quite cynical that they appeared to spend more time on their web site encouraging people not to sell to ALF than to inform us of updates and strategies on the fund. I also expressed by dissatisfaction that Wellington appeared to be stonewalling the class action by not providing documents.
To my surprise I think they may have taken on board what I said and posted some comments on their website denying that they had anything against the class action and that they had not held back documents. People might be more up to the minute on this but I seem to recall Wellington specifically stating they would no longer assist in the class action and therefore would not assist in any requests for information by lawyers - or is that just my imagination???
I realise people like to complain with like minded people to gain sympathy (have a look at any office politics for that) so I don't intend for this to be a wellington bashing session but rather want to be straight with the facts.
From my reading is appears ALF seems to be more and more an attractive alternative to Wellington - or is it simply jumping from the fire pan into the fire (my trust is not what it used to be). I would to see some comments for the pro's and con's from people on this forum.
Thanks Towbar, Flatback and others. I sincerely was not looking for brownie points but am heartened to know there is appreciation out there, I know how time consuming it can be to research and post and appreciate efforts from Duped, Marcom and everyone else also. It is really important to keep this thread alive and I look forward to the possibility that one day we will get the opportunity to put faces to names in the event that we have something positive to celebrate. We sure deserve some good news and at the very least, future investors who do their research will be well informed of those responsible for our current situation. I do know from personal contact that it is not just PIF investors that follow this thread, but many others who have been affected in some way by past/present experiences with Wellington Capital and other related business associates. Quite mind boggling actually and would make a GREAT movie. I have also determined from all of this that being a lawyer does not mean that one is in any way held in higher regard or esteem and no matter how many letters of the alphabet can be acredited to ones name does not mean that they possess a superior intellect. No offense to other lawyers who are actually honest and I know you are out there, hey I even work with some!! Well, b dust aside, I feel PIF investors will eventually witness some form of justice as the crooks are on notice as far as I am concerned. SeamistySincerely many thanks to you Seamisty,& the many other communicators on this thread,without you we would be completely in the dark. I log on to this website daily,& look forward to all your comments.
Could not have said it better selciper and I strongly suspect WC sense they are not the prefered flavour, hence the flurry of NSX announcements. Unfortunately, general concensus of opinion is suspicion rather than gratitude. Everyone who has contacted me has basically said, "Does WC think we are stupid"? Having been ripped off by MFS/OCV and the majority now acknowledging they were conned by WC, PIF investors are extremely wary. Thats why WC religiously monitor this thread, despite what they would have PIF investors believe!! Another saying that has just been invented 'Knowledge is a very important tool, and can be used to the advantage of those who possess it, not to those who think they can opress it' !!!ACE - Our situation is complicated enough without adding an extra layer of complexity by voting for ALF. Better to stay where we are and keep our eyes open. However, Wellington would be deluding themselves if they considered a rejection of ALF as being a vote of confidence in their performance..
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