... WC state that WCL and MIL are two separate entities and there is no conflict of interest. ...
Friends of mine who have a sizable amount in PIF called their Financial Advisor last Friday for an update.
They were told not to join C.A. as they may have to contribute to legal costs if the case was lost. He also stated that their units were still valued at 44c, and they would appreciate to $1 over time.
They beleived him!
Looks like from my sources that everybody should be getting out of the
Carney's Class action, as this action will fail and so all Plaintiffs in this Class
action will have to pay court costs, etc..
http://www.perfecteconomy.com/pg-probability-of-worldwide-economic-collapse.html
Very interesting material and suggestions in the above link.
Therefore, what these poor individuals live on for approx 5 years, a CEO of an Australian Bank earns in ONE HOUR?????
Further, the 50% mostly produce real wealth (Goods or Food), while the CEOs
of banks mostly produce artificial DEBT , shuffle paper, produce little or no real goods or wealth, and probably do more harm than good by creating excess credit which
DILUTES all existing savings, creating in effect ever rising prices of most things/services,
etc.
Hi all, Below is my latest complaint to WC. I hope you are not getting sick of reading them!!!! Cheers, Seamisty
Dear WC,
I don't recall seeing a written correction concerning the original statement made by WC regarding distributions as opposed to cash payments, just the change of wording. Was it ever clarified to investors that WC still intended to collect mangement fees regardless of whether the 3 cent payment came from investors own capital or was in fact a genuine distribution as originally outlined? I do not need you to send me a copy of every time cash payment has been mentioned in WC correspondence, NSX announcements etc, that is not my question. My question is:::
Did WC EVER correct and clarify to PIF unitholders the future impact/consequences of the change of wording from 'distributions' to 'cash payments' ? Were PIF investors EVER clearly made aware that WC would have access to management fees regardless of how that proposed payment was made?
http://www.newpif.com.au/pifreports/InvestorInfoForumHandout.pdf
Distributions – 3 cents before Christmas
Following repayment of the current debt facility, Wellington
proposes to reintroduce unitholder distributions. The first
distribution is proposed for October 2008 and a further distribution
will be made in December 2008 and thereafter quarterly. The plan
is to distribute 3 cents per unit before Christmas.
Management fees
Wellington proposes to reintroduce management fees after the first
3 cents in distributions has been received by unitholders.
The proposed fee is 0.7% of the Funds under management.
If WC cannot answer that simple question please note this as an official complaint.
In the SUPREME COURT OF QUEENSLAND
COURT OF APPEAL
RE: OCTAVIER LIMITED
Justice Keane
Appeal Court
Floor 5 9:30AM
(Delivery of Judgment)
Here is the link to the Judgment in the case referred to above. Fortress's appeal was dismissed.
http://archive.sclqld.org.au/qjudgment/2010/QCA10-045.pdf
So in a nutshell, Cookie, are we still in line for $50 mil Octaviar owes PIF?
The same millions that JH pledged to recover for us.
I can think of several two word answers mellifuous but I value this thread too much to post any of them!! Will you please stop goading PIF investors? Never since the inception of this thread and my involvement with it have I had more investors contact me personally on issues than with your postings. Great Dame pales into insignificance! Please refrain from annoying the few investors who regularly post on here. k. smith is an intelligent and valued investor/contributor who appears quite capable of representing themself. Our Fund issues are complex and being dealt with to the best of participating PIF investor ability. We would not like to have to limit thread participation to only unit PIF holders. Thanks, SeamistyIs that before or after tax Simgrund (in less than 2 words)?
I can think of several two word answers mellifuous but I value this thread too much to post any of them!! Will you please stop goading PIF investors? Never since the inception of this thread and my involvement with it have I had more investors contact me personally on issues than with your postings. Great Dame pales into insignificance! Please refrain from annoying the few investors who regularly post on here. k. smith is an intelligent and valued investor/contributor who appears quite capable of representing themself. Our Fund issues are complex and being dealt with to the best of participating PIF investor ability. We would not like to have to limit thread participation to only unit PIF holders. Thanks, Seamisty
Quote mellifuous 'My postings are always respectful and directed to issues, but simgrund is just too pointed with his posts for my liking':
With all due respect mellifuous if it was only 'simgrund' who has a problem with your postings why are so many other PIF UNITHOLDERS contacting me and other PIF AG reps with complaints as to your postings? Please show some respect to a thread which does not have a personal monopoly regarding moderation on the posts made. The PIF AG will continue to represent the majority of members concerns. Thanks, Seamisty
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