War threat in Ukraine

[gartley]

Interesting perspective from US Colonel Richard Black with regard to things which is somewhat different to the US/Western narrative:

 

[noirua]

Drone footage shows the aftermath. Russian army vehicles, including as many as three dozen tanks, were blown to smithereens as the battalion gathered to make the crossing
https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1525028448212746242/photo/1

 

[divs4ever]

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Drone footage shows the aftermath. Russian army vehicles, including as many as three dozen tanks, were blown to smithereens as the battalion gathered to make the crossing

how do you know that ??

the Ukraine tanks ( except for the odd Abrams ) are precisely the same chassis the Soviets designed decades back and the Russians use as well ( with different add-ons ) ( THAT is why the big Zs painted are on them )

 

[noirua]

how do you know that ??

the Ukraine tanks ( except for the odd Abrams ) are precisely the same chassis the Soviets designed decades back and the Russians use as well ( with different add-ons ) ( THAT is why the big Zs painted are on them )

You will have to complain to Fox TV and the Telegraph about this. Mind you, I spy a tank with a 'V' on it - joint second from the right.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

You will have to complain to Fox TV and the Telegraph about this. Mind you, I spy a tank with a 'V' on it - joint second from the right.

I find that when some complain to Fox and the Telegraph it really changes them both, and to a large extent the world.

gg

 

[Belli]

Maybe the UK Ministry of Defence knows. They have kind of, you know, spies.

 

[basilio]

David Attenborough on the life cycle of the Russian Tank.
Droll...

 

[Belli]

David Attenborough on the life cycle of the Russian Tank.

To clarify it is not David Attenborough but an impersonator.

 

[divs4ever]

UNAWARE UKRAINIAN TROOPS MISTAKE AN APPROACHING RUSSIAN TANK FOR ONE OF THEIR OWN PART 2OF2



i might have brought in the ' charter boat ' reference ( that isn't ONE tank , look carefully it is a column of them ) but those guys were busy messing around .

 

[basilio]

To clarify it is not David Attenborough but an impersonator.

True.. However, according to the comment under clip on You Tube, David Attenborough was delighted with the Deep Fake spoof and approved of it.

SirBaconBoi ​

2 days ago

Unfortunately this parody was used with Deepfake and AI to make it seem as if David Attenborough himself is narrating but it’s not real—- but the funny thing is, David Attenborough fully approved! Regardless— it’s excellent! Go Ukraine!

 

[noirua]

UNAWARE UKRAINIAN TROOPS MISTAKE AN APPROACHING RUSSIAN TANK FOR ONE OF THEIR OWN PART 2OF2



i might have brought in the ' charter boat ' reference ( that isn't ONE tank , look carefully it is a column of them ) but those guys were busy messing around .

That's annoying the video ended at the vital moment.

 

[Dona Ferentes]

Because its fake? The close figure doesn't react to the blast?

 

[divs4ever]

That's annoying the video ended at the vital moment.

well ( for some reason ) part one shows the person holding the phone ( camera ) probably survived

part one was only a very short clip but i did not hear machine gun-fire so hopefully all those soldiers surrendered safely

( because if i was caught in the open by a group of tanks , that would be one of my early options ..'cos my army reserves RSM [ when i was in them ] would have been incredibly angry , i got caught out like that )

 

[divs4ever]

Because its fake? The close figure doesn't react to the blast?

depends on the person , some freeze in fright until the pressure wave hits them , there is a very short part one ( a few seconds after that , but not very educational , to my eyes )

UNAWARE UKRAINIAN TROOPS MISTAKE AN APPROACHING RUSSIAN TANK FOR ONE OF THEIR OWN PART 1OF2​

a tiny chance there will be extra clips later ( but don't hold your breath )

 

[divs4ever]

BTW the whole war is a distraction for a collapsing EU/UK economy

don't forget to watch the financial/business sector as well ( unimportant stuff like the price of oil , stalled international shipping etc etc )

 

[againsthegrain]

BTW the whole war is a distraction for a collapsing EU/UK economy

don't forget to watch the financial/business sector as well ( unimportant stuff like the price of oil , stalled international shipping etc etc )

So Uk/Eu are in on it with Putin together?

 

[divs4ever]

So Uk/Eu are in on it with Putin together?

it appears to me , one side is being played like a fiddle , but which is it and who is playing the fiddle

it MIGHT be the US throwing the EU to the wolves , to save itself ,

it might be Russia to prepare for the rise of China and India

it might be the EU so as to become a 'world government ' in a combination with the UN and WHO ( the ultimate EU bailout )

all war is based on deception and the world has been deceived massively for at least three years

and 'good cop, bad cop' is a standard play in Queensland ( and elsewhere ) for decades

( the suckers might be the masses )

 

[divs4ever]

here we are ( some of us ) worried about nuclear Armageddon or biological Armageddon or climate Armageddon , and the real danger is total global economic collapse

 

[Belli]

P*** weak rationale provided in a vain attempt to extract ones self from a crazy notion. Some appear to hold to the comcept of "When you're in a hole, keep digging!"

 

[Belli]

From speech by UK Defence Sectary of 9 May.

Speech by Defence Secretary on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine

Defence Secretary Ben Wallace MP gave a speech at the National Army Museum, London, on Russia’s illegal and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine.

www.gov.uk

"Thirdly, inadequate equipment and support. Russian vehicles had not been maintained properly and immobilised many logistics vehicles, leading to cheap tyres being blown out and truck axle hub failures, all due to poor maintenance or the money for that maintenance being taken elsewhere.


As an aside, the sheer amount of footage from Ukrainian drones suggests to me that they also lack wider air defence and counter-UAV system.


Almost none of their vehicles contain situational awareness and digital battle management. Vehicles are frequently found with 1980s paper maps of Ukraine in them.


But it’s not just ground forces. ‘GPS’ receivers have been found taped to the dashboards of downed Russian SU-34s so the pilots knew where they were, due to the poor quality of their own systems."

For a supposedly modern military this is astounding but I guess if you flog your equipment on Ebay it's possible.

I have read elsewhere many Russian troops are now being issued with Mosin (bolt action rifles developed in the 1800's) and amazingly there are apparently gofundme pages to supply basic items such as reflex sites or pocket knives.