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... a remarkable set of statements from Craig Ingram, Independent State Member for East Gippsland which were published in January 2007 in the East Gippsland News. Ingram details the issues he faced in getting fuel reduction issues addressed by both the Kennett and Bracks/Brumby governments. I have subtracted out the political sniping that went with the Ingram statements because what we have is an invaluable description of what was going wrong prior to the 2002-03 Gippsland fires...
Germaine Greer gets it right.
Germaine Greer, in The Times of London, sets the record straight on the role of global warming in bushfires:
FIRE is an essential element in the life cycle of Australian forests. Season by season sclerophyll or hard-leaved woodlands build up huge amounts of detritus, which must burn if there is to be new growth.
For 40 or maybe 60 millennia, Aboriginal peoples managed fire proactively, setting alight woodland, scrubland and grassland, so that they could pass freely, so that game was driven towards them, so that fresh green herbage was available. Aboriginal languages have dozens of words for fire. As the Endeavour sailed up the eastern coast, Captain Cook noted that the skies were darkened with smoke by day and lit up by fire at night.
Bushland that is not burned regularly turns into a powder keg, as the fuel load inexorably increases. The cause of these disasters is not global warming; still less is it arson. It is the failure to recognise that fire is an intrinsic feature of eucalypt bushland. It cannot be prevented but it can and should be managed. Unless there is a fundamental change of policy across all levels of government in Australia, there will be more and worse fires and more deaths.
there are too many myths about burning off
suggest reading this study for instance
I guess another thing is that you can warn people as much as you like.
If they don't want to go they don't have to go.
You can't make them leave.
and we all know how stupid people can be....
There is a simple solution
Below Ground Bunkers.
Infact a Wambat hole did the trick.
wombat hole...or old gold digging holes...lady wildlife carer at yackandandah ne vic today...thought she was safe..but fire turning. back..she said she would take the animals into a wombat hole for safety....how big is a wombat hole ??? or maybe it was an unused gold mine...anyway it was a hole in the ground..
Well the WAFA would say that...wouldn't they? They are part of the problem and are in denial.
While nowhere near on the scale of the Victorian fires, the 1961 fires in the southwest of WA which devastated a number of communities ushered in an era of controlled fuel reduction burning which goes on to this day.On the subject of hazard reduction burning in Gippsland, this is from Robert Gottliebson in Business Spectator. Not that he has any particular knowledge of fire or bush management as far as I know, but at least he's closer to it than Good Ole Germs:
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs.nsf/Conversations/National-emergencies-P437H?OpenDocument
This is the intro:
Ghoti
i dont agree at all, they have many times more bushfires than victoria and they have obviously had to, by necessity, gain more understandings of it,
WA has spent 66% of its disaster relief capital from 1967 -1999 on bushfires, vic 34%
Given that arson is usually a sole person, secretive crime I imagine it will be very hard to prove.I think the arsonists should be tied to poles and burnt alive. eye for an eye
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