currently working for one of the cfa's....hello...how about a police check for volunteers...
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Kincella,
please do some research before posting.
You are not helping the situation posting rumours and innuendo
The CFA (and I would be assuming all volunteer fire services) conduct police checks on new applicants and transfers.
What is the process for joining?
1. May involve an information session at the Brigade to find out more about what’s involved and see if there is a role suited for you.
2. May involve an individual meet and greet session with Officers of the brigade.
3. Fill out an application form & consent for police record check.
4. Your application will then be supported by the Brigade
5. Approved by Operations Manager
http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/joining/volunteering/faq.htm
Privatised power won't pay for its part in the fires
Jeff Sparrow, editor of Overland writes:
Arsonists, says Kevin Rudd, should rot in prison. But who will be punished if the pending law suits find private power companies liable for the fires in Kilmore East, Horsham, Mudgegonga and Dederang?
Why, you will, dear reader -- thanks to the terms that state governments negotiated when they sold off our public assets. Consider the case of SP AusNet, the subject of a class action for negligence around the Kilmore fires.
The Insurance Council of Australia has estimated the damage of those fires at about $500 million. But SP AusNet's legal liability has been capped at $100 million under a deal struck by the former Kennett government with private utility operators, when the former State Electricity Commission was privatised in 1995. Legal sources said this meant the Brumby Government could be forced to cover a shortfall of hundreds of millions of dollars.
The recent heatwave highlighted some other results of the great privatization binge carried out a decade or so ago.
Connex, the group that seized Victoria’s rail network, recently excused the 2300 services it cancelled last month on the basis of ... wait for it ... the weather. Its trains can’t, you see, function in weather warmer than thirty-five degrees. Given that each year there’s this phenomenon called "summer" (you may have heard of it), operators of a transport system designed for the benefit of the public -- most of whom, strangely enough, still have to work on hot days -- might conclude that cool-weather-only trains simply don’t cut it.
But Connex, of course, is a private company, and makes its decisions on the basis of an entirely different calculus. That’s why, though Melbournians would clearly prefer to buy their fares from a conductor, we’re stuck instead with dysfunctional ticketing machines, unable in most cases even to provide change. Not surprisingly, there’s now a widespread culture of fare evasion, which the private owners attempt to counter with hectoring advertisements and roving gangs of thuggish inspectors.
But there’s a bigger issue relating to climate change. Now, we don’t have to believe in global warming. The science is complex and most of us don’t fully understand it. But many of us are also sufficiently mathematically challenged as to not follow the process by which Eratosthenes of Cyrene first calculated the circumference of the planet. But we don’t therefore sign up with the Flat Earth Society, since we possess sufficient common sense to accept the consensus of the scientific world.
If we adopt that methodology with climate change -- aligning ourselves with the vast majority of scientists rather than the small but shrill denialist faction of oil-company flacks, shock jocks and the tabloid journalists who are professionally wrong about everything -- certain things follow. We can expect a small but real increase in average temperatures, and that means bushfires will become more likely and more devastating. No, you can’t ascribe the blame to climate change for any particular fire, just as you can’t definitively link your heart attack to your pack-a-day habit. Heart problems kill non-smokers, too -- but only a fool would conclude that means you can puff away without risks.
In other words, if we don’t do something, we can expect more tragedies like the one we’ve just endured.
But that brings us directly back to privatisation. It’s not only that the process by which we swapped our public assets for a bag of magic beans has led to an appreciable degradation in services, it’s also disarmed us in the fight against the causes and consequences of climate change. How is the private company that makes money from selling you electricity -- and thus becomes more profitable the more of it you use -- going to foster energy efficiency?
The short answer is that it will do so about as effectively as, say, a pub campaigning for sobriety, a casino against problem gambling -- or, to use a more apposite example -- the private utility in charge of our taps for water efficiency.
The world financial crisis has already exposed many of the ideologues behind the neo-liberal excesses of the last decades as at best charlatans and at worst overt fraudsters. By all means, prosecute the arsonists. But let’s also have some genuine accountability about the policy makers who got us into the mess we’re now in.
A taxpayer, in letters to the editor, in The Australian is critical of a suggestion that the taxpayers should bail out the uninsured householders who lost their homes in the bushfires. I think the number of these is about a quarter of the total.
But hasn't this decision already been made by Mr Rudd. I am sure I heard him pledge to rebuild all the homes. Those more responsible people who insure their home and contents (and their vehicles) may think this unfair. But it has always been Mr Rudd's policy to look after the improvident.
And I think the precedent has already been set. I am fairly sure that after the Canberra fires in 2003 the uninsured were reimbursed by the taxpayer.
In the 1974 floods in Brisbane nobody in the area where I lived ever dreamed they would need additional flood insurance coverage for a very rare event. We were lucky as we had a War Service home which was automatically covered. It was stiff cheddar for those without flood coverage.
Understood completely, Sam. I was just confirming what had been asked, not making any judgements.Julia, (not having a go at you) each community has one truck to defend them, if they are lucky, two.
There are only approx 1200 tankers in the state
these trucks can't sit around waiting to defend in a big fire.
All resources need to be sent to the front line to extinguish the fire before it spreads.
That is why people need to learn to defend themselves.
So the message now is don't waste your money insuring your house we will bail you out anyway. I'm keeping this in mind, as every year I up my insurance in order to rebuild if a cyclone gets me. Maybe I won't do that anymore and use the premium for a trip to NZ instead.
Agree in spades on both counts. The determination expressed by so many people who have lost their homes to rebuild in the same place is something I don't comprehend.To be honest, if I choose to live in a place that is a bush fire risk I would hate to think that the CFA would risk their lives to save it in a bushfire. If I could not save my property I would not expect anyone else to try to do so either. Obviously they will learn more from what happened.
But then, I wouldn't live in an area that was so knowingly risky either.
February 16, 2009 - 10:59AM
The forestry industry has blamed "uninformed" green policies for Victoria's devastating bushfires, saying too much forest is locked up in reserves.
National Association of Forest Industries (NAFI) chief executive Allan Hansard has called for a national plan to actively manage forests.
"The current process of locking forests up in conservation reserves and national parks with no ongoing fire management regime has proven to be fatally wrong," Mr Hansard said.
"Bushfire management policy must be based on the best scientific knowledge, not the whims of uninformed green ideologists.
"These current green policies are clearly not working and, ironically, have contributed to the destruction of the very areas they were supposed to protect."
Mr Hansard said forests should be pre-emptively managed to prevent fuel building up, and roads had to be maintained so firefighters could reach trouble spots.
NAFI wants a national summit to be held to thrash out a plan to prevent, and better manage, bushfires.
Mr Hansard said he had offered to give Australian Greens leader Bob Brown a briefing on how green policies aren't working.
Meanwhile; in SMH
You are quoting the Forest Industry - lol; no vested interests to 'bash a greenie' there.
Doesn't that same gene exist in all politicians? (maybe except Wilson Tuckey)I think Brown and other greens have a gene which causes a mental block which prevents them from being able to admit they are wrong.
People standing under overhanging trees on their filthy litter-covered roofs spraying a garden hose wearing nothing but summer gear. Do people not learn???? Especially in such high bushfire risk areas such as the Dandenongs.
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