to the firefighters out there...article in sat paper, about how the experts in the melb office...were not aware of any fires until after 7,00pm or later that night....
another royal commission is a waste of money....it will find the same problems that have existed since 1939...since the black friday fires....nothing has changed except now we have another 70 years of timber on the ground waiting to burn, and a 1000 fold increase in population in the middle of it....
the other things are already known....
i find this very, very difficult to believe.
can you post the article?
Opposition for preventing assistance to the fire victims by opposing the stimulus package, that the head-nodders who are seated behind the front bench were nodding furiously in agreement.
Kincella,
I had not comprehended the true sociopathic nature of arson until my dinner party conversation last night. Again, in my ignorance, I had not thought deeply about this and had kind of figured it was kids up to no good with no idea of the consequences of what they were doing. Bad enough, but now that it has been spelt out for me, absolutely horrifying.
It's correct. ABC Radio interviewed a Flowerdale resident several days after the fire and that person said they had been left to completely fend for themselves.pretty certain I heard on radio or tv, or media...they did not go to flowerdale for 4 days,,,they did not think there had been a fire there....and similar with steels creek....anyone else see this ?
Antisocial misfits who commit mindless thrill seeking crimes like vandalism. unprovoked assault, cruelty to animals, throwing rocks at cars from overpasses, shining laser beams at aircraft and lighting bushfires
feel no sense of guilt.
These psychopaths are however fully aware that when they come before the courts there are many, apparently well meaning people, prepared to come forward to plead mitigating circumstances and blaming the causes for their aberrations on circumstance outside their control.
"Enlightened" magistrates and judges give more weight to the arguments of the do-gooders than to those of the police or the victims. Hence soft sentences.
Then Sam, something went very wrong, didnt it, if the Australian article is factual. As they have directed quoted CFA Chief Rees at 6pm not knowing anyone had died, I think it is the former.
It's correct. ABC Radio interviewed a Flowerdale resident several days after the fire and that person said they had been left to completely fend for themselves.
Antisocial misfits who commit mindless thrill seeking crimes like vandalism. unprovoked assault, cruelty to animals, throwing rocks at cars from overpasses, shining laser beams at aircraft and lighting bushfires
feel no sense of guilt.
..
We cull certain animals, we destroy undesirable plants and yet we seem to be bent on hanging on to every unhuman human life.
Just prey, majority will wake up one day and vote for change.
and answer to my fire plan...posted this morning ???
..
Sentencing laws are ridiculous and I think that if you asked the ordinary person they would want at the most moderate a sentence that meant that some unhuman humans were locked up and the key thrown away.
(but think how many more prisons would need to be built)
From ABC, 16 Feb. 09
ACCUSED ARSONIST 'AT RISK IN CUSTODY'
A Melbourne court has heard the man accused of lighting the deadly Churchill-Jerralang fires in Gippsland may be at risk in protective custody.
Brendan Sokaluk, 39, did not appear in the Melbourne Magistrates Court today.
Sokaluk is facing charges of arson causing death, intentionally lighting a bushfire and a count of possessing child pornography.
Eleven people died in the fires.
The suppression order on his identity was lifted this morning after Magistrate John Klestadt ruled that the risk of vigilante justice would not be reduced by suppressing Sokaluk's identity.
His defence lawyer told the court that there was an unprecedented level of emotion, anger and disgust that the alleged offences had caused in the community.
She said her client was in protective custody, but still remained at risk.
The prosecution also asked for longer than usual to prepare its case, as 200 witnesses have yet to be interviewed.
Sokaluk has yet to enter a plea.
The case will return to court in May.
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