It has come to light that green council requirements for building in the Kingslake area and surrounds required tree planting, virtually to hide the house, therefore disobeying the fire services advice of 1.5 tree height from the building. More on this as details are updated.
Can anyone verify if this is true?
I hope they don't do a cover up. I'm already seeing the 'experts' coming out and saying forest management would not have helped. IMO heads should roll.
And almost all the homes destroyed in the fires would have had house and contents insurance, the cars destroyed also insured, and many of the fire victims would have had life insurance.
It was found after the Canberra bushfires in 2003 that a surprising number of the victims had no household insurance coverage. Because it was declared a National Disaster area they were compensated by the taxpayer. I imagine the same deal will apply in Victoria.
No doubt the politicians would workshop and committee it to death, but I think Vic will have an ongoing problem and we just cant use less water every time the levels drop, at some stage the water will lose purity then it will really hit the fan, have the politicians thought of that ? I doubt it.
I completely agree. We all know what has happened. Such graphic detail is entirely gratuitous and just adds to the general level of distress. Helps no one.We dont need the detail of human and animal suffering, it causes unessessary anguish.
It was found after the Canberra bushfires in 2003 that a surprising number of the victims had no household insurance coverage. Because it was declared a National Disaster area they were compensated by the taxpayer. I imagine the same deal will apply in Victoria.
Valid point, Badger. I suppose the difference is that with the road accident victims we're inured to it because a road accident is on the news every day. Also road accidents don't usually involve annihilation of dwellings.Victorian Road Deaths last year totalled 304 people, often in horrific circumstances. Australia was 1463 deaths. Pretty truamatic for the families of those killed, just like the bushfire families.
Don't see any Red Cross appeal for those road toll victims and their families. No massive media fundraising frenzy. I guess because the deaths happened over a whole year (and certainly will again this year), it gets a bit boring for the media. And nowhere near as "photographable" as the fires.
And almost all the homes destroyed in the fires would have had house and contents insurance, the cars destroyed also insured, and many of the fire victims would have had life insurance.
Interesting to see where all the money raised (including my substantial doanation), actually goes.
Badger
Valid point, Badger. I suppose the difference is that with the road accident victims we're inured to it because a road accident is on the news every day. Also road accidents don't usually involve annihilation of dwellings.
Prawn, also a very valid point about suicide. But I guess the main difference here is that this is an autonomous and entirely personal decision. A choice if you like.
This will sound super Cynical...fire disasters make good TV, suicides and road accidents
don't, fires have heroes and amazing tales of survival etc, also lots of emotion from
ordinary people..the pollies love it to, all that quality TV time and looks of concern.
Yes. You need a combination of victims, heroes and someone to blame and the media and the pollies will flock there in droves. Remember Beaconsfield.
They all love a spectacular tragedy. The pollies are consummate actors and they can put on a brave attempt to hold back their emotions while hugging victims at the flash of a camera. And then they arrange "days of mourning" for encore performances.
this has to be the biggest load of garbage written on this thread, it eclipses this clown that last night tried to start a thread which was so offensive it was immediately removed..
the thought that anyone in the media is loving this, or that the politicians are loving this is so incredibly insensitive to what is happening.. infact calliope, your a disgrace.. everything humanly possible is being done by every media representative, and by every politician to firstly assist those in harms way, and also to try and assist those that have lost friends family property.. this is a disaster never been seen before and no one is demonstrating anything like what you are saying calliope..
i ask you to present some hard facts mate,, if your going claim this then you better come through with the goods, you sure are not winning any respect from anyone with this type of tripe..
"They all love a spectacular tragedy. The pollies are consummate actors and they can put on a brave attempt to hold back their emotions while hugging victims at the flash of a camera. And then they arrange "days of mourning" for encore performances."
right now the abc radio is working tirelessly warning people in the flare ups to evacuate, particularily around healesville where i have a lot of relatives right now either staring at the fires or about to have one come their way any minute.
the politicians are not weeping for the cameras.. there is no grandstanding, the objective of all is to see this disaster end as soon as it can, but its not over by any means, there are serious blazes right now threatening many more homes.. the emotions that they have shown are genuine, as has everyones emotions in this ongoing disaster..
calliiope, when you hear of the heartache, the jobs people have to endure, to have to pull burnt bodies of children from homes and cars, to secure crime scenes, the loss the agony the sheer gravity of the situation overwhelms you, it makes you weep, its not easy for those like the ones working at the morgue, working 12 hours shifts 7 days a week, this is not an opportunity to prosper or to grandstand, this is just a full scale effort to deal with a bushfire disaster never seen before.
"Yes. You need a combination of victims, heroes and someone to blame and the media and the pollies will flock there in droves. Remember Beaconsfield."
you are so far off the track here.. you are so wrong and so offensive..
imho your a disgrace..
calliiope, when you hear of the heartache, the jobs people have to endure, to have to pull burnt bodies of children from homes and cars, to secure crime scenes, the loss the agony the sheer gravity of the situation overwhelms you, it makes you weep, its not easy for those like the ones working at the morgue, working 12 hours shifts 7 days a week, this is not an opportunity to prosper or to grandstand, this is just a full scale effort to deal with a bushfire disaster never seen before.
I agree. And the politicians are certainly grandstanding. Would they do it in the absence of the media?:headshake:
When it comes to naive tripe you win hands down.
I agree. And the politicians are certainly grandstanding. Would they do it in the absence of the media?:headshake:
When it comes to naive tripe you win hands down.
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