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sptrawler said:
IMO
Universities have become a Government tool, for keeping those who can afford it, at school and off unemployment, for as long as possible.
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Staff having an opinion is not the kind of infection the Chinese want their away students to witness.
 
You can not get an education at a University. Boycott Universities if you want a balanced education.
They are no longer dispensing open debate and the exchange of ideas.
There is only one view taught. You need to be able to jump through all the restrictions put out by the SJW. It is just not worth the hassle.
Riot squad called to Sydney University over protests to sex therapist Bettina Arndt
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/r...t/news-story/0698b147e38b44f2b13fc3766664385c

Sydney University and La Trobe University are a disgrace.
 
The Universities are so infiltrated by the Left Marxists that it is time to defund them. We need to come up with a better way of learning.

No more tenured academic positions.
No more woke courses.
Reduce the power of the administration.
Increase Industry input.
Be accountable to the people.

Learn online.
Reduce fees.

Defund the Universities.
 
dutchie said:
Defund the Universities.
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Now that is something I would demonstrate for.... Well maybe keep the STEM etc courses funded.

We need them. But we should chuck the humanities in the sea!
 
Yeah who needs people like Socrates, Plato and Aristotle all radical commies
 
Not inly are they biaised etc but even in stem courses, i judge their administration pathetic at best, disorganised, just money machine ..
And i am talking about one of our top one.
it is before my time here but were unis always that bad here or did it just come with their push for full fees paying foreign students?
 
IFocus said:
Yeah who needs people like Socrates, Plato and Aristotle all radical commies
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If only they taught that (especially the Socratic method), rather than Baudrillard, Lyotard, Derrida and Foucault.
 
qldfrog said:
Not inly are they biaised etc but even in stem courses, i judge their administration pathetic at best, disorganised, just money machine ..
And i am talking about one of our top one.
it is before my time here but were unis always that bad here or did it just come with their push for full fees paying foreign students?
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Came with the infiltration by the Marxist left. Nothing to do with fee paying foreign students.
 
dutchie said:
Came with the infiltration by the Marxist left. Nothing to do with fee paying foreign students.
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That's for the course content in humanities, but as for UQ complete whoring to China, definitively due to foreign students fees.
I can kind of understand it.
Where it is really pathetic is that while adopting a business model for fees, in term of mgt and efficiency, it is at best pathetic
How long are we going to pay fees that high for online degrees by our universities whereas we can get the top of the top Harvard or MIT online for cheaper?
They could..should? Become another casualty of the covid19.
I always tell my son, i fo not pay for your learning, i pay for you to meet and interact with your future network of friends and free thinkers colleague..but with online only degrees.. what is the point?
 
qldfrog said:
That's for the course content in humanities, but as for UQ complete whoring to China, definitively due to foreign students fees.
I can kind of understand it.
Where it is really pathetic is that while adopting a business model for fees, in term of mgt and efficiency, it is at best pathetic
How long are we going to pay fees that high for online degrees by our universities whereas we can get the top of the top Harvard or MIT online for cheaper?
They could..should? Become another casualty of the covid19.
I always tell my son, i fo not pay for your learning, i pay for you to meet and interact with your future network of friends and free thinkers colleague..but with online only degrees.. what is the point?
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China is communist, Marxism is communist, ergo.

Agree that Universities are a waste of money at moment.
Other businesses will appear, offering online courses, cheaper and better. Only a matter of time.

Defund the Universities.
 
dutchie said:
Defund the Universities.
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Fund them properly.

You can't do prac subjects like lab work online and contact with tutors is important.

Some subjects may be suitable for online, but it's not a complete replacement.
 
dutchie said:
China is communist, Marxism is communist, ergo.
Agree that Universities are a waste of money at moment.
Other businesses will appear, offering online courses, cheaper and better. Only a matter of time.
Defund the Universities.
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The reality is the universities were once elite institutions, that employed the top lecturer's in their field, to nurture the next generation of extremely high achievers.
Now they have become factories, that have to cope with the influx of everyone from average ability to the creme de la creme and supply courses for them to be capable of having a realistic chance of completing.
So what was a trade or technical college function in the past, has now become a degree, with the associated price tag attached, so they have actually become degree supermarkets IMO.
Where the maximum selection of goods are offered and hopefully you get everyone through the checkout, that is where the overseas students are great for business their credit card always works.
The clever country, everyone's a winner.:thumbsdown:
 
SirRumpole said:
Fund them properly.

You can't do prac subjects like lab work online and contact with tutors is important.

Some subjects may be suitable for online, but it's not a complete replacement.
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Sure ask my son who has just completed a semester, dual degree one in engineering without a day on site from memory 6k per semester for recorded courses..would you go that way @SirRumpole
Is the solution giving them more money? engineering is heavily gov subsidized, the salary of the Chancellor is in million per year
You are left, where fo you think is the problem? Funding?
Oh i did not include in the salary the envelopes of the CCP...
Enough to vomit, but must be me
 
qldfrog said:
Sure ask my son who has just completed a semester, dual degree one in engineering without a day on site from memory 6k per semester for recorded courses..would you go that way @SirRumpole
Is the solution giving them more money? engineering is heavily gov subsidized, the salary of the Chancellor is in million per year
You are left, where fo you think is the problem? Funding?
Oh i did not include in the salary the envelopes of the CCP...
Enough to vomit, but must be me
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Yes the universities are gravy trains for ex poltical hacks like Julie Bishop, funny how they just walk out of politics into a cushy uni job isn't it? So the government needs to take back control of the unis and not let rent seekers fill their own pockets. Courses that provide needed skills for our own citizens, not drop ins. Pay Chancellors $200k a year max.

I'd doubt if your son is getting a good deal, all theory and no practice just creates big headed graduates who think they know everything but really have little idea of things actually work.
 
SirRumpole said:
Yes the universities are gravy trains for ex poltical hacks like Julie Bishop, funny how they just walk out of politics into a cushy uni job isn't it? So the government needs to take back control of the unis and not let rent seekers fill their own pockets. Courses that provide needed skills for our own citizens, not drop ins. Pay Chancellors $200k a year max.

I'd doubt if your son is getting a good deal, all theory and no practice just creates big headed graduates who think they know everything but really have little idea of things actually work.
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I indeed believe he does not get his money worth..that is for sure, luckily, he is working in parallel in an engineering firm where he not only learnt but get paid...so I believe he will be right
fully agree on your first paragraph, but nothing there to insufficient funding...just pigs in the trough (sp?)
 
Universities are now places where your children are indoctrinated instead of educated.
 
Please don't hurt the little petals.

Trinity's Historical Society tonight rescinded its invitation for Richard Dawkins to address the society, saying it valued its “members’ comfort”

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Breaking: The Hist Will 'Not Be Moving Ahead' With Richard Dawkins Address

Author and academic Richard Dawkins is known for his books on evolution and his controversial criticisms of religion.
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The College Historical Society (the Hist) has tonight rescinded its invitation to Richard Dawkins to address the society next year.

Auditor of the Hist Bríd O’Donnell announced the cancellation in a statement on her Instagram page, saying that she had been “unaware of Richard Dawkins’ opinions on Islam and sexual assault until this evening”, adding that the society “will not be moving ahead with his address as we value our members comfort above all else”.
 
University/College selection in US has come down to this. It won't be long before Australia follows suit.

Cornell law professor creates online database of 220 universities teaching critical race theory to help parents choose colleges that don't make the 'racist ideology' mandatory​

  • Cornell Law School professor William Jacobson has launched a database listing 220 universities and their approach to critical race theory
  • He claims the database will help parents choose a school for their chidren
  • Jacobson told Fox News' Tucker Carlson that the site is for parents who don't want their kids to be ‘indoctrinated’ by an ‘anti-racism ideology’
  • He claims that critical race theory teaches student that the ‘most important thing in society is the color of your skin’
  • Critical race theory says that white supremacy is an ideology which is baked into the structures of society and particularly the law
  • Critics say that it leaves people exposed to the training feeling that they are being blamed for problems which they did not cause

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Cornell prof launches database of schools with critical race theory

Cornell Law School professor William Jacobson told Fox News' Tucker Carlson on Thursday night that critical race theory is 'very racist' and leads to students being 'indoctrinated'.
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