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U.S. Presidential Election 2020

Who will win the 2020 U.S. Presidential Election?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 12 44.4%

  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 15 55.6%

  • Kanye West

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    27
  • Poll closed .
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Amazing really. Trump and his cronies echo a litany of lies and deception about electoral issues, take them to the courts - and get them promptly thrown out when they are proven as either wrong or so small potatoes it won't make a difference.

And then - having trumpeted this litany of deceit - they ask for anyone else in teh peanut gallery to come forward with more stories. Forget any evidence. Just have a story we can tell. It's the 2020 version of the Jerry Springer show.

But check out the facts of how the first volley of cases has gone.


Trump's longshot election lawsuits: where do things stand?

The president and other Republicans have filed a series of lawsuits in different states that several judges have already dismissed

Since election day, Donald Trump and other Republicans have filed a smattering of lawsuits in battleground states that have provided cover for Trump and other Republicans to say that the election still remains unresolved

Legal experts have noted these suits are meritless, and even if they were successful, would not be enough to overturn the election results. Indeed, judges in several of these lawsuits have already dismissed them, noting the Trump campaign has failed to offer evidence to substantiate allegations of fraud.

Here’s where some of the key lawsuits stand:

Trump's longshot election lawsuits: where do things stand?

The president and other Republicans have filed a series of lawsuits in different states that several judges have already dismissed
www.theguardian.com
 
“We’ve Uncovered A Sophisticated Plan To Rig The Election” Say People Who Accidentally Booked A Press Conference At A Landscaping Company



The team of people who booked a Presidential press conference in the carpark of Four Seasons Total Landscaping instead of the Four Seasons International Hotel, say they have uncovered a complex scheme of vote tampering and fraud.

“You have to believe us when we tell you that we’ve exposed one of the greatest frauds in American history,” the people told the media while standing outside of a run-down warehouse next to a sex shop.

Pausing to allow a dump truck to drive through the industrial estate, which is situated opposite a crematorium, a spokesperson for the group said that it took a keen eye and an attention to detail to spot what was going on with votes right now. “Not everyone can see it. But if you cross your i’s and dot your t’s like we do then it’s as clear as day,” he said, moving aside to allow a landscape contractor past to pick up supplies.

He said further details of the fraud would be revealed at tomorrow’s press conference, to be held at Sheraton Concrete Cutting & Demolition.

“We’ve Uncovered A Sophisticated Plan To Rig The Election” Say People Who Accidentally Booked A Press Conference At A Landscaping Company — The Shovel

“We've crossed our i's and dotted our t's" said the man standing outside a run-down warehouse next to a sex shop”.
www.theshovel.com.au
 
wayneL said:
*BETFAIR*

The corporate bookies suck, if you are a winner, mate. They will either ban or restrict you.
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Thanks mate, never tried Betfair - it's basically an anonymous peer to peer gambling prediction market but not blockchain based right?
 
Hmm. I wonder what stories Trump can pull out of the bag of magical realism that can beat this announcement from the Department of Homeland Security on the US election?


Joint Statement from Elections Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council & the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Executive Committees

Original release date: November 12, 2020


WASHINGTON – The members of Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council (GCC) Executive Committee – Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) Assistant Director Bob Kolasky, U.S. Election Assistance Commission Chair Benjamin Hovland, National Association of Secretaries of State (NASS) President Maggie Toulouse Oliver, National Association of State Election Directors (NASED) President Lori Augino, and Escambia County (Florida) Supervisor of Elections David Stafford – and the members of the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council (SCC) – Chair Brian Hancock (Unisyn Voting Solutions), Vice Chair Sam Derheimer (Hart InterCivic), Chris Wlaschin (Election Systems & Software), Ericka Haas (Electronic Registration Information Center), and Maria Bianchi (Democracy Works) - released the following statement:

“The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result.

“When states have close elections, many will recount ballots. All of the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each ballot if necessary. This is an added benefit for security and resilience. This process allows for the identification and correction of any mistakes or errors. There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.

“Other security measures like pre-election testing, state certification of voting equipment, and the U.S. Election Assistance Commission’s (EAC) certification of voting equipment help to build additional confidence in the voting systems used in 2020.

“While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too. When you have questions, turn to elections officials as trusted voices as they administer elections.”

Joint Statement from Elections Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council & the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Executive Committees | CISA

The members of Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council (GCC) Executive Committee – Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) Assistant Director Bob Kolasky, U.S. Election Assistance Commission Chair Benjamin Hovland, National Association of Secretaries of State...
www.cisa.gov
 
No surprises here. The Head of Cyber security in the US government expects to be fired by Trump because he is correcting the torrent of lies over the election.

Krebs has drawn praise from both Democrats and Republicans for his handling of the US election, which generally ran smoothly despite persistent fears in the run-up that foreign hackers might try to undermine the vote or that there might be chaos with mail-in voting during a pandemic or intimidation of voters going to the polls to cast their ballots in person.

But he drew the ire of the Trump White House over a website run by Cisa dubbed Rumor Control which debunks misinformation about the election, according to the three people familiar with the matter.

White House officials have asked for content to be edited or removed from the website, which has disputed numerous false claims about the election, including that Democrats are behind a mass election fraud scheme, for which no evidence has been presented. In response, Cisa officials have refused to delete accurate information.

In particular, one person said, the White House was angry about a Cisa post rejecting a conspiracy theory that falsely claims an intelligence agency supercomputer and program, purportedly named Hammer and Scorecard, could have flipped votes nationally. No such system exists, according to Krebs, election security experts and former US officials.

Top US cybersecurity official reportedly says he expects to be fired

Christopher Krebs leads the agency that secures voting technology, which has been pushing back on misinformation about the election
www.theguardian.com
 
sptrawler said:
@basilio at this point, it seems that you appear to be the only one interested. ?
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That's interesting... The current President has clearly lost the election but has decided to totally undermine public confidence in the electoral process by making completely unfounded claims about electoral fraud. He has also refused to acknowledge the result, has refused to support the incoming Democrat transition team and has sacked any military officials who are not totally loyal.

But no one here is interested ? Concerned ? Wondering what is happening ?

Strange fruit indeed..

PS It isn't the only thread on ASF I post to either.
 
Yes, but nothing on here changes the outcome and obviously only you are hanging on to the theatre.
I guess the only way to carry this forward, is to wonder why some would want a republic, rather than the existing Australian system, when you have the ridiculous fiasco that the leading republic in the world can spew up.lol
Imagine:
President Kev.
President Julia.
President Tony.
President Malcolm.
President Scott.
I dont think so.lol
 
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dutchie said:
This sums it up fairly well. But the market does not care. Keep pumping.

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Clever Dutchie, Certainly sums up the overwhelming feeling of Trump and 40 million plus US supporters.

So perhaps if everyone put in $5 each we could fund a Trump led legal case where Donald gets the personal opportunity to explain to a court the evidence behind this statement and the reasoning that led him to predict it multiple times before the election.

It would be a fantastic chance to show once and for all what Trump is made of and put to rest any doubts about his veracity.

Frankly I would be delighted to throw $50 into a Go Fund Me program to encourage such an action.
 

Include me in too.

Trump campaign drops Arizona lawsuit requesting review of ballots

Trump campaign drops Arizona lawsuit requesting review of ballots

Lawyers for the Trump campaign have dropped a lawsuit seeking a review of all ballots cast on Election Day after finding that the margin of victory for the presidential contest in Arizona could not be overcome.
edition.cnn.com

Trump law firm withdraws from Pennsylvania case challenging election

Trump law firm withdraws from Pennsylvania case challenging election

The abrupt withdrawal overnight is a blow to the president’s efforts to overturn the result of the vote in court
www.theguardian.com

‘Purely outlandish stuff’: Trump’s legal machine grinds to a halt

‘Purely outlandish stuff’: Trump’s legal machine grinds to a halt

So many lawsuits have been filed in so many state and federal courts that no one has an exact number. The campaign has lost nearly all of the cases that have been decided so far.
www.politico.com

Trump Is Not Doing Well With His Election Lawsuits. Here’s a Rundown.

Trump Is Not Doing Well With His Election Lawsuits. Here’s a Rundown.

The president has suffered a string of defeats in pursuing legal action seeking to delay certification of his loss to President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.
www.nytimes.com
 

There is one annoying, uncomfortable aspect for lawyers presenting cases to a Court.
If they lie they are in serious trouble.
Certainly would crimp their style in these cases.
 




Neither of these sources can be trusted anymore. Times and times again they have proven to have a clear anti-Trump bias. I remember when they were claiming Clinton had a 96% chance to beat Trump.. they are the anti-Trump equivalent of pro-Trump QAnon: both equally unreliable and heavily biased propaganda machines for each side.
 

Don't be silly. They are reporting on court cases that have been thrown out or withdrawn. You can check them yourself if you doubt the veracity of the articles.
 
Go Chump Man
$20T debt when you started
$27T debt today > %35 increase in 4 years, you are truly the master of screwing things up
$48T debt projected in 4 years, the legacy of Chump man
 
satanoperca said:
Go Chump Man
$20T debt when you started
$27T debt today > %35 increase in 4 years, you are truly the master of screwing things up
$48T debt projected in 4 years, the legacy of Chump man
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Probably most of that 35% was in the last 6 months.
 
Just my tuppenth at the moment for what it's worth.

We are in limbo; but on the face of it Biden seems to be over the line, SCOTUS still has to play its hand according to the law and evidence presented to it.

I don't think anybody knows how that is going to play out right now, so the agnostic position is to just sit back and watch what happens...

...and anything can happen at this point.

Media gaslighting should be ignored until SCOTUS rules.
 

Well, that is dead in the water, you cannot provide fake evidence to a court, he should have done at least one unit in law at university to understand that. Chump is screwed.

Either way, it is the death of an empire.
 
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