I do get your point, and agree. However, the timing is very questionable.
Obviously there is a distinction made between which sufferers are more prioritised/deserved of financial assistance.
This is a personal choice (to some very personal) that is most beneficial if kept to oneself.
I understand your points very clearly beerwm.
Why have children if there is no food, no water, no medical help?
I would happily donate some money for condoms.
In such a short time it has turned into a basket case. In 8 years! How can you blame the population for that?
who do you blame? plenty of zimbabweans were quick to jump on the "blame whitey" bandwagon, confiscate farmers land and destroy the food production infratructure without thinking about future consequences.
it's not our job to save the world, its our job to look after our own. house our homeless, feed our hungry, care for our aged and save surpluses for hard times. now i'm all for offering education and infrastructure development support to the third world, but sending food aid to africa is like feeding pigeons in the park. and under no circumstances should we be sending money over there.
it's not our job to save the world, its our job to look after our own. house our homeless, feed our hungry, care for our aged and save surpluses for hard times...and under no circumstances should we be sending money over there.
I dont know what to say to this comment, truly remarkable how some people think.
In regards to the Victorian Bushfires;
I understand this will not be well taken but its something that has to be wrote.
Over the past week, I have not been able to turn on the television without some reporter or politician telling me how bad the situation is, how this is a national tragedy. With foreign media and politicians offering support and offering their help and sorrow.
I honestly feel for everyone effected, it is a terrible hardship to endure.
And from recent reports the death-toll could rise to 230, with a number of more townships in ruins.
But lets look at the broader picture:
And right now watching TV see adverts asking me to donate...
Can people really turn a blind eye to such injustices in the third world but commend the efforts of "us australians for uniting together"
This situation has made me feel sick, and after seeing such destruction and pain in Victoria I feel there will no change in global policy towards those in true need.
I know where my donations are going.
beerwm, so what's your answer?
Sending part of our taxes would be fair if every country did. Taxes must go up, so...... ok.......! How long do we supply support?
Too many people in the world full stop.
As for the fire victims, I will say, I feel we have raised enough $$$
Next week some other individual will lose via fire / flood / cyclone / bad investments / car accident and this family will get next to nothing....
this thread isnt about an answer,
I am just trying to give people some perspective on what happens beyond our borders, In the end its your choice where your donations go...or dont.
Sure you cant save the whole world, but you can do what you can.
almost forgot, we are a nation that support Israel, the occupation of Iraq for Oil, and is fighting the Taliban for the US...who did nothing to us. So we don't really have a moral leg to stand on in recent times; how do you expect us to care about starving kids in another country unless they're going to help us profit in the short term?
I dont understand your question.
its abit off topic anyway
We are not a moral or just country. We like many other act for our own benefit and will act against others with lethal force for our own benefit...why would expect a country like that to give a damn about others?
errrr...
Every country in the UN donates a certain % on an annual basis. The government offer's tax deductions to charitable donations.
There is obviously a sense of giving by many political leaders without "expecting something in return."
If you want to breakdown what a country is.... a collection of people. You are basically saying.... people act for their own benefit.
Which is instantly false considering the amount we donate to appeals like the Victorian bushfires.
If you dont give a damn about your fellow human. If you think it is only right to give food/shelter/medical help to Australians and not those in the third world. I do feel sorry for you.
errrr...
Every country in the UN donates a certain % on an annual basis. The government offer's tax deductions to charitable donations.
There is obviously a sense of giving by many political leaders without "expecting something in return."
If you want to breakdown what a country is.... a collection of people. You are basically saying.... people act for their own benefit.
Which is instantly false considering the amount we donate to appeals like the Victorian bushfires.
If you dont give a damn about your fellow human. If you think it is only right to give food/shelter/medical help to Australians and not those in the third world. I do feel sorry for you.
My point is that just because some nutter decides to rape a nation of their ability to look after themselves doesn't give the right for someone who was lucky enough to live in a stable country such as Aus to say "bad luck it's their fault for....... having so many kids, putting up with a dictator, fighting wars."
Come on. Looking after your own back yard is fine in theory except we take/pillage from many other backyards to get ours looking oh so right to erect our under cover bbq's.
If you can sit in your yard and not see how you were lucky enough to be plopped there and all that came before it then you are lucky. Other like to look over the fence because they believe it all to be linked.
Do you remember slavery, colonialism, missionaries, support for dictators?what do we pillage from other backyards?
Do you remember slavery, colonialism, missionaries, support for dictators?
And I still don't see how ignoring people on the other side of the fence helps you. Their problem will one day be ours if/when it get bigger. Its a waste of time saying nothing can be done because they have the culture of a savage, (which is what you are saying?) Sooner or later it will be our problem but it will be bigger.
Have a look at Italy and boat people from Africa.
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