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It's gone from bad to worse, looks like no rightie is going to buy an EV to save Musk.

76pc drop: Major nation abandons Tesla

Elon Musk’s troubles have compounded after Tesla hit the skids in one of its most important countries where it has recently invested $13 billion.

Elon Musk’s troubles have compounded after Tesla hit the skids in one of its most important markets.
Sales of the EV giant have plummeted in Germany – Europe’s biggest economy and the world’s third largest – as President Donald Trump’s cost cutting tsar struggles to juggle multiple jobs.

Telsa sales slumped 76 per cent to just 1,429 cars in February, according to statistics from the German Federal Motor Authority, despite electric vehicle sales spiking 31 per cent over the month to 35,949.

Tesla sales are now down 71 per cent in Germany over the first two months of 2025. Next door in France, Europe’s second biggest economy and the world’s seventh largest, sales are down 44 per cent.

Germany and France are the largest EV markets in the European Union.


Telsa’s troubles in Germany come after Musk controversially threw his support behind anti-Establishment political party AfD in the country’s February 23 elections.

“AfD is the only hope for Germany” Musk had posted on X in the lead-up to the election.

The AfD finished second in the election but Germany’s probably next leader Friedrich Merz has vowed not to work with them.

Musk and Telsa have also been hit by blowback in the US and across Europe due to the tech guru’s role in the Department of Government Efficiency in the Trump Administration.

In both America and Europe, protests have turned violent.

Telsa’s recent woes in Europe have been mirrored here in Australia, where sales fell 70 per cent in February amid softening EV sales and heightened competition from China.

And over the last four months, Tesla’s share price has fallen 50 per cent, before rebounding slightly in recent days.

Musk hasn’t directly addressed Telsa’s European woes but earlier this month predicted Tesla’s profit could grow 1000 per cent over the next five years.

Other factors have affected Tesla in Europe, such as supply, as the company suspended its production at plants that make its most popular car the Model Y – to rework its assembly lines, according to Fortune.

The Model Y has undergone a reworking five years after it was first released and sales of the car are unlikely to bounce back quickly, as it will take time for the factory to ramp up production again.

Tesla’s Gigafactory outside Berlin is one of several facilities that will lose production capabilities due to the changeover. The factory was completed in 2022 at a cost of US$8.5bn ($13.31bn)

Other plants in Germany have had to deal with activist attacks on its infrastructure.

Tesla’s updated Model Y has rolled off the production line in the US and Chinese-made models are expected to land in Australia around May.

Musk has meanwhile committed to ramping up production in the US.

 
Reuters ran an article on Tesla's Australian chairwoman, who is getting increasing noisy questions asked about her independence and her remuneration. The same article was in the AFR on Tuesday.


 
So paying Musk $50bil plus hasn’t been also been problem? I am thinking the damage to Musk looks permanent mainly due to the amount of noise its all created which is all the punters are going to remember IMHO
 
So paying Musk $50bil plus hasn’t been also been problem? I am thinking the damage to Musk looks permanent mainly due to the amount of noise its all created which is all the punters are going to remember IMHO
People are very forgiving if there is a dollar in it for them. I’m just unsure whether this is a dead cat bounce or the beginning of a recovery in price.

gg
 
If Musk really cared about Tesla, backing Trump was a really dumb move, a climate change denier and pro fossil fuels, drill baby drill mentality. His big mouth on X doesn't help either, upsetting customers and sponsors. I think he should resign like what Bill Gates did with Microsoft, Gates was being investigated for inappropriate conduct by Microsoft, when he chose to resign instead. I don't think Tesla will ever recover as long as Musk is in charge and he keeps pissing people off and making enemies.
 
If Musk really cared about Tesla, backing Trump was a really dumb move, a climate change denier and pro fossil fuels, drill baby drill mentality. His big mouth on X doesn't help either, upsetting customers and sponsors. I think he should resign like what Bill Gates did with Microsoft, Gates was being investigated for inappropriate conduct by Microsoft, when he chose to resign instead. I don't think Tesla will ever recover as long as Musk is in charge and he keeps pissing people off and making enemies.

How many shares do you own?
 
People are very forgiving if there is a dollar in it for them. I’m just unsure whether this is a dead cat bounce or the beginning of a recovery in price.

gg
It's the shrinking customer base that's the problem.

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None to be honest, I only buy ASX shares.

Then don't stress about TSLA, you have nothing to worry about when you have no skin in the game. Your time is better spent offering advice on ASX shares that you own or are looking at, I'm sure most ASF members would be more appreciative of reading something that you have more knowledge on.
 
Then don't stress about TSLA, you have nothing to worry about when you have no skin in the game. Your time is better spent offering advice on ASX shares that you own or are looking at, I'm sure most ASF members would be more appreciative of reading something that you have more knowledge on.
Hahaha down bad on TSLA are you? Imagine telling someone not share an opinion, on a forum hahahahahaha

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Interesting metric from China if indeed it is true.
tesla model Y smashed the sale sof EV's last week.
Tesla taking off in China, TDS reversal in China?
Do they see it as some level of support?
Interesting to not some of the names of the other EV cars, almost ass bad as driving a car named Build Your Dreams.
Mick
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Where did you get that info Mick?
I found it hard to believe there wwas no mention of BYD so I looked it up.
(PS just realised your post was only for cars between 200,000 and 300,000 yen. they sell two main cars in memory, one dearer than the Teslas and one cheaper, they must be out of that range)

 
Where did you get that info Mick?
I found it hard to believe there wwas no mention of BYD so I looked it up.
it was an X post from a China poster, thats why I said if it can be believed.
Searching through the comments section from the original post, someone else is claiming that Grok says these figures are the same as those for the week 20- 30th October 2023.
Disinformation, it seems to be everywhere.
Edit:
The original post was model specific whereas the car site you posted was for overall brands.
BYD has a lot of models under the BYD brand., tesla in China only sells the Model 3 and Model Y.
For all that, according to https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-y-china-best-selling-car-2024/ , Tesla Model Y was the biggest selling single model in China in 2024.
Don't know what to believe.
Mick
 
Hahaha down bad on TSLA are you? Imagine telling someone not share an opinion, on a forum hahahahahaha

So where do you live, QLD, Gaza or Ukraine?

No. I purchased shares several years ago. The only downsides were the ridiculous amount of capital gains tax. And my accountant and financial advisor stuffed up the calculations for my super contributions, last week I received notice from the ATO informing me of that and of the amount I now owe them in tax.

They say that is a good problem. I usually would agree, if the government spent our tax dollars wisely. But they don't, and now they are hell bent on turning us into a socialist country of the view of the Greens and extreme left unions.

Sometimes I wonder why I bother working.
 
it was an X post from a China poster, thats why I said if it can be believed.
Searching through the comments section from the original post, someone else is claiming that Grok says these figures are the same as those for the week 20- 30th October 2023.
Disinformation, it seems to be everywhere.
Mick
Think it might be the truth, just cherry picked. i realised it was only a subset of the market due to the price range.
 
I don’t understand how taxes are applied to international shares and the forms you have to fill out, are you taxed twice with your profits ?
Depends on who your broker is, what the arrangements are etc.
I buy frequently on the international market through NABTRADE and COMMSEC.
It is no more difficult than buying shares on the ASX.
Whatever taxes there are( equivalent of our GST on trades), are paid as part of the cost of buying.
I have only ever had witholding Tax taken out of some dividends in other jurisdictions, but I have never traded to get dividends.
I am only interested in capital gains, and they are levied locally, including any windfall gains or losses courtesy of currency movements.
Mick
 
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