JohnDe
La dolce vita
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I wonder if the gloss is coming off Tesla myself, I'm not trying to be negative and Tesla have and are doing amazing things, but when you set the achievement bar as high as Tesla has it is hard to maintain it.
For example the battery giga factories, they soak up a lot of money not only in materials but in maintaining market domination in a rapidly changing field.
From an @JohnDe post:
The mysterious new Tesla order to the world's largest electric vehicle battery manufacturer CATL turned out to be not of its novel Kirin batteries, but of LFP packs. Not your regular LFP battery, though, rather a greatly improved chemistry with higher density slated for the Model Y.
Daniel Zlatev, 08/03/2022
E-Mobility
The world's largest EV battery maker CATL recently announced a novel Kirin batterytechnology that allows for higher energy density than Tesla's 4680 battery cells in the same footprint. It then became clear that Tesla has ordered CATL a new type of battery than the LFP ones it already supplies for the Model 3 units made in the Shanghai Gigafactory.
Bets at the time were that Tesla might have ordered the 4680-style cells, despite that it now counts LG and Samsung among its suppliers for them, besides the original partner in the battery's development Panasonic. Now, however, local media is reporting that CATL will be selling Tesla its even more novel, M3P battery technology. It is similar to the improved LFP battery chemistry with added manganese, the so-called LMFP packs, but CATL insists that its technology is different and proprietary.
I mentioned a long time ago, i couldn't understand why Tesla doesn't outsource it battery manufacturing to a battery specialist, will the giga factories become an albatross, will the be sold?
The Tesla business model and share price reflects a lot of blue sky assumptions, once clouds start appearing, some punters get nervous.
Some explanation on the reasons for Tesla's high price -