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Tony Abbott for PM


What he is saying is exactly right, when everyone signed up to the Paris agreement that's fine, but now most of the major players have pulled out.
Why the hell would we soldier on at a huge cost to our economy?
It is dumb, our industries, which are struggling, will be further disadvantaged.
 
Yes and you will find California are using other states on the grid, for stability.
If all the States were reliant on renewables, frequency control would-be impossible.
They need to store the solar power via some chemical process. Still hard to do at present which is the problem with renewables. The Snowy mountains scheme 2 gets around that problem here.
 
Karma's a beech :)

Mr Abbott was more than happy to attack the Rudd Govt when the same thing happened re the Copenhagen deal and the subsequent backflip that came with it.

Power is making Australia a laughing stock IMO
 
They need to store the solar power via some chemical process. Still hard to do at present which is the problem with renewables. The Snowy mountains scheme 2 gets around that problem here.

I wonder if a quick and easy (temporary while Snowy hydro is being built) storage solution could be flywheels. Large rotating discs that could be spun up with excess power then drawn on as needed.

I've no idea how practical or expensive they would be on a grid basis, just a thought.
 
I wonder if a quick and easy (temporary while Snowy hydro is being built) storage solution could be flywheels. Large rotating discs that could be spun up with excess power then drawn on as needed.

I've no idea how practical or expensive they would be on a grid basis, just a thought.
They are used for top end UPS units. (uninterruptible power supplies, but they would have to be massive to run the power supply. Maybe we should have built a giant flywheel in Melbourne rather than that useless giant ferris wheel[emoji1]
 
Karma's a beech :)

Mr Abbott was more than happy to attack the Rudd Govt when the same thing happened re the Copenhagen deal and the subsequent backflip that came with it.

Power is making Australia a laughing stock IMO

I participated in Abbott's rise to power.

And regret it.

See the first few posts on this thread.

He has weevils in his brain and once you've got weevils there you are stuffed.

Best he retire.

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What would Steggall, a barrister flitting between the ski slopes and her legal office, know about struggling to pay the electricity bill, or stretching the aged pension until next Thursday?

And she's no independent, any more than K.Phelps. The links to Get Up are clear enough.

When push comes to shove, the good burghers of Warringah will sort the authentic from the opportunist.
 
What would Steggall, a barrister flitting between the ski slopes and her legal office, know about struggling to pay the electricity bill, or stretching the aged pension until next Thursday?

And she's no independent, any more than K.Phelps. The links to Get Up are clear enough.

When push comes to shove, the good burghers of Warringah will sort the authentic from the opportunist.
You could be right :)

https://www.news.com.au/finance/wor...t/news-story/7838d0d5893c6495e97272823b44bfc6
 
What would Steggall, a barrister flitting between the ski slopes and her legal office, know about struggling to pay the electricity bill, or stretching the aged pension until next Thursday?

And she's no independent, any more than K.Phelps. The links to Get Up are clear enough.

When push comes to shove, the good burghers of Warringah will sort the authentic from the opportunist.
Or they might just decide the poisonous climate denying rubbish Tony Abbot keeps pushing makes him unsuitable to be in Parliament and a Liberal lite candidate is a better choice.:)
 
Or they might just decide the poisonous climate denying rubbish Tony Abbot keeps pushing makes him unsuitable to be in Parliament and a Liberal lite candidate is a better choice.:)
I reckon TA will get in then the pressure will be on to return him to opposition leader. This election is mot going to be easy for Labor. If they were facing Turnbull with decent support within the party they would probably lose as their attempting major change.
 
I reckon TA will get in then the pressure will be on to return him to opposition leader. This election is mot going to be easy for Labor. If they were facing Turnbull with decent support within the party they would probably lose as their attempting major change.
If Turnbull was there, Shorten would romp it in, Morrison should have replaced Abbott in the first place.
Giving Turnbull a second run was as bad as Labor giving Rudd a second run.
Shorten is saying how we are going to change over to electric cars, and when asked how long it takes to charge one, he says 10 _ 15 minutes, even a Muppet knows that's wrong.
If he gets in Australia deserves it. Lol
 
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