labour party is not AWU??
are you sure?
From the time JG took over, I thought they were exactly the same based on the actual actions and targeted benefits
I don't remember saying that. Where are you going with this?So you choose to assign a minor constituent's name to the whole?
I don't remember saying that. Where are you going with this?
ok, got it. What would be the correct acronym? Or do you have to type Liberals or Coalition?This is in reference to S/boys earlier post. There is a propensity to label the federal coalition with the acronym LNP, which stand for Liberal National Party. Your post seemed to support this notion.
LNP is a peculiarly Qld party (AFAIK), the result of the amalgamation of the Qld Liberal Party and the Qld National Party. In other states... and federally, the Liberal Party and the National party exist as separate entities, though in coalition.
LNP may be a member of the coalition, but it is not the coalition.
Ergo, any references to the federal coalition with the acronym LNP is not accurate and a misrepresentation as per my previous comments.
It may be a pedantic point, but details matter IMO.
ok, got it. What would be the correct acronym? Or do you have to type Liberals or Coalition?
$10b deficit are you sure that's it, because last year was a surplus come hell or high water.
I am saying they are shoddy because they have restricted business sentiment/ growth and then wonder why the money isn't rolling in. They have a long list of policy that has affected different segments of the economy just enough(and more than enough) to set the ball rolling in a negative direction . They then fail at policy, or jump from policy to policy on a weekly basis. destroying any confidence in their ability to deliver stability for business decisions longer then a week. Their message is confused and often hypocritical and it seems the factions are each vying for a piece of conflicting policy.
Libs want to grow revenue and no doubt make cuts. Yeah it's yet to be seen if they manage it, but I'd rather libs then labor which is hamstrung by the union factions
Flavour of the week for Labor sounds like Gay Marriage for a bit of vote grabbing. Yep well done.
As yet I've not really seen any policy that backs up your claims on the Libs & Nats growing revenue or cutting spending. Point me to it if you have some details.
Pretty much every cut that Labor made in the last budget was howled down in the media, and some of it rejected by the Libs and Nats - seems shortening them to LNP riles up say ASFers.
I will also add that until a few weeks ago the Libs and Nats were adamant that they would be producing surpluses right through their first term in office. I often wonder if the right on this forum believe Chris Pyne when he said the Libs n Nats would have produced surpluses right through the GFC.
I fully agree Labor are their own worst enemies at present. The dissension within the party is not good for the country.
I'm trying to wrap my head around what policy does Tony stand for? Why do people think he'll be a good PM? Any policy he's got direct input into seems a real dud eg paid parental leave scheme causing a tax increase for the top 3200 companies (Woolworths will have a bigger bill under this than they got from the wrecking ball carbon tax) or the direct action policy on carbon reduction which I would argue is going to cause a huge increase in the public service as they look at tens of thousands of companies to form baseline carbon emissions then calculate any reductions they've made.
The current Govt has went and spent money from revenue sources that didn't generate the revenue budgeted, and have caused a blowout in the deficit, but Howard went on a spending drive using a brief period of historically high corporate tax revenue and set up middle class welfare and programs based on this revenue being a long term structural increase, and while leaving a headline budget surplus, had cause a huge spike in the structural deficit of the budget. Tony wants to be Howard lite, so I do question his ability to control spending, especially when one looks at the final term of the previous Liberal National Govt.
I fully agree Labor are their own worst enemies at present. The dissension within the party is not good for the country.
The suffocating weight of the NDIS (now named Disability Care Australia) the NBN, Gonski, Carers Recognition, Dental Scheme and array of other “initiatives” Gillard has left for Abbott to deal with puts his Parental Leave firmly in the trash can for now.
And yet Pickering is wrong.
From the Business Spectator today.
The problem is government dithering and inability to create a tax that gives them money.
I for one want to see Tony Abbott's government start to solve the infrastructure problems and structural problems in our economy to make us more efficient. I think they realise this. I just hope the infrastructure and other changes are done by getting rid of some of the tax lurks rather than upping the GST to 15% which will only hurt us ordinary joes.
....looking around, I don't hold much hope.
I am optimistic, Flying Fox - maybe not on Tony Abbott but with the other future ministers.
That's part of a broader problem Labor has with fiscal management. They also waste too much of what they do get or to put it more specifically, see it too much as a means for their own political ends.The problem is government dithering and inability to create a tax that gives them money.
It's important to not let the facts get in the way of prejudice.
It's also important not to let prejudice get in the way of factual reporting. If Stephen Koukoulas was a former economics adviser to Gillard he must have done a lousy job.
Will this government leave a big mess for the next one? Probably no bigger than the last one (Howard and Costello) did.
The hole is not caused by government spending but low tax intake.
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