I don't know the answer to that, sorry.
Tony Abbott for PM
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Well sails, I can't see labor changing, Swan is overseas telling everyone to spend up big, forget austerity.
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I can see Labor changing.
From office to opposition.
From office to opposition.
Didnt he say the opposite?Well sails, I can't see labor changing, Swan is overseas telling everyone to spend up big, forget austerity.
edit: never mind I might be thinking of something else. He said they shouldn't mindlessly pursue austerity, not that they should forget it.
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I can see Labor changing.
From office to opposition.
That is a foregone conclusion doc, It was interesting reading this article, the last paragraph was poignant.
We have been saying it for ages, funny how the reporters have finally capitulatated.
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/reforms-a-lesson-in-politics-20130419-2i5ih.html
But she has also set up a protracted public argument on the subject, and that is exactly what this is all about. If there had been a co-operative agreement struck with the states a year ago, the matter would be largely settled. But leaving it late and leaving it open gives Gillard 10 weeks to campaign on the topic of school funding, her preferred political battleground, before the election campaign proper.
This is not about Gonski. It's about Gillard.
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Nearly time to take the "for" out of the thread title.
September in Australia will be like the liberation of Paris.
September in Australia will be like the liberation of Paris.
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Once again its actually her poor judgement. She's been around long enough to know that you should never count your Gonskis before they have been COAGed.
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Julia Gillard didn't want an agreement on Gonski with the states on Friday.
Politically, she wants to make it an election issue. Peter Hartcher is right on the money there.
Gillard's thinking couldt be that it might act as a distraction from everything else they've done that's gone bad.
Politically, she wants to make it an election issue. Peter Hartcher is right on the money there.
Gillard's thinking couldt be that it might act as a distraction from everything else they've done that's gone bad.
How does that make sense when she knows labor isn't going to get another term and she's shown scant interest in what becomes of labor post September? At least if she got the gonski stuff through she'd have something to point to legacy wise.
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June 30 might be a different story.
The aim might be to present it as an election policy distinction between Labor and the Coalition.
I have doubts as to whether she's yet thinking in terms of legacy.
4 months out from her inevitable defeat she's not thinking in terms of legacy?
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I said a while back,IMO she is delusional and she is obviously surrounded by an aggressive inner circle.
Fortunatelly the silent majority aren't impressed.IMO
The more she tells people how she will do this and force in that, just reinforces peoples dislike of her.IMO
I still think she would have done far better going to an election last October.
Better still, she would have done better by calling an election rather than the minority government fiasco.
The obvious difference between Gillard and Thatcher is, Thatcher was nasty because it was required ,there were extreme fiscal, social and terrorist problems happening in the U.K.
Apparently we're doing fine according to Julia and Swan.
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LOL really, the liberation of Paris? posted at 6.46 am, your drunk this early in the day?
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No he should probably have said, the night is always darkest, just before dawn.
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Leigh Sales interviewing Tony Abbott just now, she was excellent and smiling, gave him scope to tell his story, well done.
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It's good to see Tony finally have the balls. I'll have to watch it.Leigh Sales interviewing Tony Abbott just now, she was excellent and smiling, gave him scope to tell his story, well done.
Judging by Leigh's recent interviews, I think she's been advised to back off a little.
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My impression was rather that, it having taken so long to get Mr Abbott onto "7.30" she was being all pleasant and accommodating in order to build his confidence in coming back as the election draws closer when she will, entirely properly imo, start being a whole lot tougher.
That said, I was impressed by the improvement in Mr Abbott's delivery and mostly with his responses.
He seems to have overcome the awful umming and ahing and was fluent and confident while remaining polite and respectful.
Pleasantly surprising for me.
Julia. so nice to see you saying some good things about Tony Abbott for a change for you have been pretty critical of him in the past.
I can see now he might even get your vote.
But I must confess, he has improved his image and it is all good. I guess somebody has been working on him very extensively and implimented a good job on him.