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In interesting answer to what I thought was reasonably constructive.
I do not dislike anyone. Not only is it a wasted emotion, but leads to destruction.
Ahh well
A compliment from Greenie Plod...the kiss of death. I guess that rules him out. Tell me which Liberal you dislike most Plod, and I'll back him/her.
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He might win an election, but you wouldn't get a Liberal government.
Turnbull isn't the only choice. Surely there are others who have had longer political experience than him.
I'd have thought when the bill was received, some junior secretary would take one look at it, see the cost had doubled because consumption had doubled, and politely return it to the sender, offering that explanation.
I don't think we can blame Tony Abbott's advisers alone. Surely he has the intellectual capacity to sort out for himself what is sensible or not.
Seemingly not, however.
If he keeps this up, we could see Labor returned to power.
A compliment from Greenie Plod...the kiss of death. I guess that rules him out. Tell me which Liberal you dislike most Plod, and I'll back him/her.
Christopher Pyne is the best performer of them all and could run rings around Abbott.
He is likeable, he speaks well, he is through and has been in Parliament long enough to hold his own and I reckon the girls would like him too..
He would be a disaster. The Labor party would have a thick dirt file on him, especially after his drinking session with James Ashby. Julia Gillard once referred to him as a "mincing poodle." An apt description I think.
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He might win an election, but you wouldn't get a Liberal government.
I reckon Pyne could triple the dirt file on Gillard and I think that day is getting much closer.
I would be interested to know from other ASF members as to whom they would choose should Abbott fall.
Robert Menzies who formed the Liberal party would be described these days of being left of Turnbul such is the change in punters perceptions driven by the right.
Robert Menzies who formed the Liberal party would be described these days of being left of Turnbul such is the change in punters perceptions driven by the right.
She does get it right, but it might all be part of his grand plan.Niki Savva gets it right. Abbott is slowly but slowly but surely trending towards losing the unloseable election.:bad:
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Calliope, the next two weeks of parliament sittings will make or break Abbott but the coaliton will have to pull a rabbitt out of the hat and I just hope they have a magician in the camp to do it.Judging by the Newspoll results this morning, I think it is time to put accident-prone Abbott back in his cage and give Julie Bishop a run. There seems little doubt that a lot of Gillard's misogyny dirt is sticking. Julie Bishop could return Gillard's abuse in spades and with impunity.
Any criticism of Gillard is regarded by the left as a sexist smear. A similar situation applies in America where any criticism of Obama is regarded as a racist smear. it is the last resort of cowards to hide behind their gender and race.
Calliope, the next two weeks of parliament sittings will make or break Abbott but the coaliton will have to pull a rabbitt out of the hat and I just hope they have a magician in the camp to do it.
I would still prefer Pyne to Bishop but who knows, to equal the leadership gender may pay off. Bishop always appears to be nervous when she speaks but at laest Gillard could not use the misogyny crap any more.
Judging by the Newspoll results this morning, I think it is time to put accident-prone Abbott back in his cage and give Julie Bishop a run. There seems little doubt that a lot of Gillard's misogyny dirt is sticking. Julie Bishop could return Gillard's abuse in spades and with impunity.
Any criticism of Gillard is regarded by the left as a sexist smear. A similar situation applies in America where any criticism of Obama is regarded as a racist smear. it is the last resort of cowards to hide behind their gender and race.
Agree, Calliope. Although this nasty lot will find mud on her and throw it without mercy. It's a dubious honour and about the only thing labor are good at. I am not so sure the polls are really reflecting the electorate's disgust with Gillard's nasty mud throwing (the electorate don't usually like it - look at what happened in Qld).
The real polls still reflect a strong move to the libs such as the recent ACT poll in labor heartland with a 7.3% swing to the libs.
And a move back to Turnbull is exactly what the left want. His last polls before he was dumped in 2009 showed a 2pp of 57 to 43 in labor's favour. His preferred leader status was 14 compared to Rudd's 60 (and that was only about 7 months before Gillard declared that Rudd had lost his way...).
Abbott is still doing better than the failed Turnbull at 34%.
No wonder lefties want the failed Turnbull back.
http://www.newspoll.com.au/image_up...on & Leaders Ratings + CPRS + Best Leader.pdf
Turnbull was more popular the Abbott with Coalition voters last month. I'd also hazard a guess that Turnbull pulls voters in from the middle ground while Abbott pushes them away.
I actually don't think it's just the sexism, Abbott is dull to listen to. I haven't heard one constructive thing come out of his mouth in months. The goverment could say we have found $1 trillion of gold under Uluru and he'd find a way to say it's a bad thing.
Judging by the Newspoll results this morning, I think it is time to put accident-prone Abbott back in his cage and give Julie Bishop a run. There seems little doubt that a lot of Gillard's misogyny dirt is sticking. Julie Bishop could return Gillard's abuse in spades and with impunity.
Any criticism of Gillard is regarded by the left as a sexist smear. A similar situation applies in America where any criticism of Obama is regarded as a racist smear. it is the last resort of cowards to hide behind their gender and race.
+1 to both above. I don't think it's just the sexism stuff. Just considering my own reaction to Abbott (and I utterly detest the Labor government), I'm finding I'm mentally rolling my eyes at his verbal awkwardness and political incompetence both of which seem to be increasing.Turnbull was more popular the Abbott with Coalition voters last month. I'd also hazard a guess that Turnbull pulls voters in from the middle ground while Abbott pushes them away.
I actually don't think it's just the sexism, Abbott is dull to listen to. I haven't heard one constructive thing come out of his mouth in months. The goverment could say we have found $1 trillion of gold under Uluru and he'd find a way to say it's a bad thing.
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