Gillard like Howard has made herself available to the media for scrutiny at all times.
She is also a very able in the media spot light and as PM its a must have ability.
When Rudd was opposition leader he actively hunted the media down, Abbott actively runs away.
Gillard says the opposition is "pathetic." She is right. No wonder she's crowing. They had her on toast and they let her slither away. They left it to the Media to bring her to justice, and now she has the Media eating out of her hand.
See you all in the after life.
You are like the crowd in trading.
Best wishes to you all !!
joea
Who would you vote for ?Just to let you know I wouldn't vote for either Abbott or Gillard at this stage. I don't believe in the lessor of two evils or such theories.
No - in short, I would probably exercise my discretion to pick none of them. I have never really seen the point of voting just for the sake of putting a number next to someone that I was not happy with.Who would you vote for ?
Not those god awful Greens I hope.
To me, the Coalition was right to be cautious on the Slater & Gordon thing.Gillard says the opposition is "pathetic." She is right. No wonder she's crowing. They had her on toast and they let her slither away. They left it to the Media to bring her to justice, and now she has the Media eating out of her hand.
I'm happy IF can have a day in the sun.Hey joea, don't get too out of shape, it is only a forum to discuss issues.
Even IFocus and drsmith are finding common ground, which just shows two smart guys working through the issues.
Spot on.Labor will be thrown out of office, it has been too traumatic for everyone, pink batts, school canteens, etc
However the coalition does have to put forward a viable alternative, it has been easy with labor blowing their feet off. But if you think they are going to lay down and throw the last quarter your dreaming, you have already seen how nasty this bunch can get.
While I understand how you feel, I would always vote for someone.As dishonorable as this probably seems to most - I feel it is honest at the very least.
That's rather unreasonable, isn't it, joe? No need to make a personal attack on someone whose view differs from yours. I don't know how the numbers would stack up but I'd be surprised, if a tally was made of how often Julia Gillard has made herself available for full interview (as distinct from a sound bite) on a serious media program compared with Tony Abbott, she hadn't fronted up many, many more times than Mr Abbott.Please supply the video of Tony Abbott actively running away from the media.
You are one of the posters that is full of crap.
Go back in your hole with a bottle of stale beer.
joea
Let's not hold Mr Rudd up as some sort of shining ideal. He was a worse media junkie than Peter Beattie in Qld.Gillard like Howard has made herself available to the media for scrutiny at all times.
She is also a very able in the media spot light and as PM its a must have ability.
When Rudd was opposition leader he actively hunted the media down, Abbott actively runs away.
100% correct summary. She comes out on top when she takes an aggressive initiative as she did a couple of days ago.Gillard says the opposition is "pathetic." She is right. No wonder she's crowing. They had her on toast and they let her slither away. They left it to the Media to bring her to justice, and now she has the Media eating out of her hand.
Agree on all your above points. But if Mr Abbott doesn't lift his game, he will be left in the starting blocks.Hey joea, don't get too out of shape, it is only a forum to discuss issues.
Even IFocus and drsmith are finding common ground, which just shows two smart guys working through the issues.
Labor will be thrown out of office, it has been too traumatic for everyone, pink batts, school canteens, etc
However the coalition does have to put forward a viable alternative, it has been easy with labor blowing their feet off. But if you think they are going to lay down and throw the last quarter your dreaming, you have already seen how nasty this bunch can get.
It will test Abbott, also Joe and Malcolm need to swap portfolios, if they don't I feel Abbott isn't going to be able to hand ball any of the work.
+1. Completely agree. I feel the same.No - in short, I would probably exercise my discretion to pick none of them. I have never really seen the point of voting just for the sake of putting a number next to someone that I was not happy with.
It's a tough gig, but I am always hopeful that someone stands out in the next 18 months, whether they be incumbent or a new selection.
As dishonorable as this probably seems to most - I feel it is honest at the very least.
No - in short, I would probably exercise my discretion to pick none of them. I have never really seen the point of voting just for the sake of putting a number next to someone that I was not happy with.
It's a tough gig, but I am always hopeful that someone stands out in the next 18 months, whether they be incumbent or a new selection.
As dishonorable as this probably seems to most - I feel it is honest at the very least.
Lack of carnage Abbott's inconvenient fiscal truth
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...iscal-truth-20120824-24rkr.html#ixzz24VXVJShEPerhaps, instead of searching for signs of carbon tax devastation, the Coalition leader could explain how he would deal with a slowing mining boom, or how he would reform the regulation of the electricity industry, or how his own ''Direct Action'' policy - in its present form regarded with incredulity in the business community - could be made to work. It would be better than insulting our collective intelligence with his wrecking ball mantra.
100% correct summary. She comes out on top when she takes an aggressive initiative as she did a couple of days ago.
Agree on all your above points. But if Mr Abbott doesn't lift his game, he will be left in the starting blocks.
Gillard, once she tastes the upper hand (which she is at the moment) has the capacity to make significant inroads into the Libs' lead.
If he limited his exaggerations to only when absolutely necessary as a matter of principal, he would find himself in bother a lot less. Specifically, the carbon tax over time will largely speak for itself.Abbott's biggest failing as a politician, viz-a-viz Gillard, is that he is not comfortable when he is lying. His body language gives him away every time. Gillard on the other hand is an accomplished liar. She can stand there for an hour and lie her reptillian head off to an adoring press gallery, confounding them with legal jargon, such as 'trust fund" is defamatory and "slush fund" is not.
It will essentially come down to trust in Labor vs the Coalition's credibility.I don't expect the polls to change to much the election is still the Coalitions to lose but its starting to look like (hopefully) Labor wont get smashed and Abbott almost certainly wont get the senate if he keeps up his normal form.
If he limited his exaggerations to only when absolutely necessary as a matter of principal, he would find himself in bother a lot less. Specifically, the carbon tax over time will largely speak for itself.
He should stick to playing the government's weaknesses (which ar many) and not focusing attention on his own.
But typical labor, they try to distract the public from these indirect costs from carbon tax and try to make the 10% or so look small. It's not small when so many price increases start adding up.
Do labor supporters really think we are so stupid?
Especially after they said they wouldn't bring it in.I expect many voters, won't vote for a party that has brought in this tax.
I think Abbott is right over the carbon tax. Who really wants to part with a few hundred each year to pay for something that we don't want, don't think the underlying cause is settled and was promised categorically it wouldn't happen under a Gillard government?
Sails,
Reading your post above, I shake my head even more as to why TA feels the need to exaggerate.
Agree entirely with all the above.And the point is, small or large, there is abolutely no good reason on any grounds for us to be charged a carbon tax. Even if it were only 0.5% it can't be justified, therefore it is wrong and I, and I expect many voters, won't vote for a party that has brought in this tax.
LET'S not beat about the bush. To my mind, Tony Abbott tells lies.
So what? Is there anything surprising about that? After all, he's a politician.
But it needs to be pointed out because the central message from Abbott supporters is that the Prime Minister is the liar - Ju-liar, in fact, according to the likes of Alan Jones.
The Opposition Leader is portrayed - and portrays himself - as the epitomy of honesty. A man whose word can always be trusted.
Mr Abbott's lieutenants were even pleased when he was tossed out of Parliament on Monday because it got his offending comment - accusing Julia Gillard of lying - into the headlines.
Mr Abbott's own truthfulness came under the microscope, however, after a blundering performance in an interview on ABC TV's 7.30 program on Wednesday evening.
Earlier that day he had claimed BHP's decision to put the Olympic Dam mining project in South Australia on hold was partly due to the Federal Government's carbon and mining taxes.
That was porkie No. 1. BHP CEO Marius Kloppers had blamed such factors as the Eurozone financial crisis, the slowdown of growth in China and weakness in commodity markets.
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