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sails said:
Abbott deserves a go, imo. If he fails, he will meet the same fate as Gillard. However, he has put up with screeching tirades in parliament and having his name put through the mud. It shows he has perseverance.
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Tony Abbott's efforts in the "Ironman" was perseverance, not his parliamentary performance.

We all have to put up with Julia Gillard's harsh "aussie" twang, Tony is not the only one.

When has Tony Abbott's name been put through the mud???????

This is not a school captain competition. I suggest you take some notice of Julia (from ASF) who is no fan of the Labor party but is objective. See below.

Julia said:
Well, isn't it about time he does show us what sort of PM he would be?
I'd say the electorate has seen enough of him over many years to have a pretty clear idea about whether they like/trust him or not. So far, he's not gaining the unqualified support of much of the electorate.
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drsmith said:
That's all that's left for Labor and it's supporters.

Abbott, Abbott, Abbott.

The sound of resignation is clear in the Labor voices in their media commentary on their forum on the economy, including the PM.

Meanwhile, in the real world,



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Just keep looking the other way as I am sure its too painful for you lot to watch Abbott.

As for the economy governments have little impact short term but given the extreme shrill from these threads that the sky is falling its must be embarrassing that it isn't.

Abbotts and Hockeys comments re the economic numbers were just incredulous, living the lies that they weave for the faithful.
 
Calliope said:
The strange irony is that Rudd is higher in the PM popularity stakes than Gillard or Abbott.
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Yes, and this is a consistent feature. Malcolm Turnbull rates pretty highly also.
Is this perhaps because both Rudd and Turnbull were around as Leaders for a pretty short time, not enough exposure for the public to discover their weaknesses?
Mr Rudd scored high points for his Apology speech. Doesn't seem to matter that it made zero difference to aboriginal people's actual lives. It seems the electorate loves rhetoric if it sounds romantic and idealistic.

I read a comment in one of the papers the other day which made the point, that to get to know Gillard or Abbott personally was to like them. Whereas to get to know Rudd well was to hate him, as most of his cabinet did.
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I read the same comment. Clearly Rudd is detested by many of his colleagues, probably the reason he has not by now displaced Ms Gillard who is at least apparently liked by most of them.

Where last week's national accounts showed growth of 4.3 per cent in the year to March, the National Australia Bank's chief economist Alan Oster said the May Survey results were consistent with growth of no more than 2 per cent.
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Yep, the May survey showed a pretty dismal result. Amusing to see Mr Swan not commenting on the May NAB survey. A bit hard to strut around with a big grin and a puffed up chest on that.

There was also an interestingly negative report on "PM" this evening about the Indian economy which suggested all is not well there.
 
IFocus said:
Just keep looking the other way as I am sure its too painful for you lot to watch Abbott.

As for the economy governments have little impact short term but given the extreme shrill from these threads that the sky is falling its must be embarrassing that it isn't.

Abbotts and Hockeys comments re the economic numbers were just incredulous, living the lies that they weave for the faithful.
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IF, it is you that is incredulous...:D

You keep focusing on Abbott, Abbott, Abbott and yet fail to see the lies we have been told by labor. And what about Swan's promises of surpluses and yet deficits continue to widen, or worse still, they borrow more to make it look like a surplus?

I think you have been rather brainwashed to think Abbott and Hockey are lying. I suppose you also think Campbell Newman is a liar as well. He managed 78 seats in the last Qld election to labor's 7, so I don't think you have too many agreeing with your taunts.
 
Well the latest news out of W.A is Christian Porter is moving to federal politics. That will really put a cat among the pigeons for labor.
If labor loose the next election, which is a foregone conclusion, then Porter joins parliament. He will be fast tracked and is a really polished performer, I wouldn't be surprised to see him touted as successor for Tony.
He will add a lot of fire power to the coalition front bench. IMO
 
Julia said:
Maybe Malcolm Turnbull as Treasurer and Christian Porter as Finance Minister?
Would be an improvement over the present Shadow ministers.
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Could be Julia, but one thing for sure he won't be sitting on the back bench.
 
Julia said:
Maybe Malcolm Turnbull as Treasurer and Christian Porter as Finance Minister?
Would be an improvement over the present Shadow ministers.
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I don't think Malcolm is up to a Ministerial position. So far he has been disappointingly unimpressive, imo.
 
dutchie said:
I don't think Malcolm is up to a Ministerial position. So far he has been disappointingly unimpressive, imo.
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Yes I agree. He is too close Labor's ideology.

The only thing Turnbull has going for him is, he is more handsome than Abbott and the majority of women fall for looks all the time. Does not matter what his policies are so long as he is good lookin'. :D:D
 
My contacts in Tony's office tell me that Turnbull is on a very, very short leash, and doing as he is told.

He tries, and is a trier, but his time is past.

I believe Beograd is slated for him as an Ambassadorship.

gg
 
sptrawler said:
Well the latest news out of W.A is Christian Porter is moving to federal politics. That will really put a cat among the pigeons for labor.
If labor loose the next election, which is a foregone conclusion, then Porter joins parliament. He will be fast tracked and is a really polished performer, I wouldn't be surprised to see him touted as successor for Tony.
He will add a lot of fire power to the coalition front bench. IMO
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Not an issue for Labor Porter didn't worry the local state Labor players but major drama for the Liberal faceless men as they have to shore up the right wing which I don't think Porter is part of so what will they do with him?

Also you would think he would have to get in line there is a lot of very good talent on the back bench unlike the Coalition front bench.
 
IFocus said:
Not an issue for Labor Porter didn't worry the local state Labor players but major drama for the Liberal faceless men as they have to shore up the right wing which I don't think Porter is part of so what will they do with him?

Also you would think he would have to get in line there is a lot of very good talent on the back bench unlike the Coalition front bench.
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Yes a very good point IFocus, but fortunately the labor government hasn't left them with a very high bar to clear.

The only star performer labor have had, has been Bob Brown, the rest of the government have been a congo line of ar$e kissers as one of labor leaders said.

As for no issue for W.A labor, they are wandering around in circles trying to find a direction.LOL
But I have to give you credit IFocus, you still plug along when a lot would throw in the towel.
 
Actualy IFocus, it will be really interesting to see how many of labors front runners hold their seats.
It is one thig being a front runner when you are popular, completely opposite when you are unpopular.:cry:
Like I said in an earlier post, the only one in this government who has got through their policy, is Bob Brown.
 
dutchie said:
I don't think Malcolm is up to a Ministerial position. So far he has been disappointingly unimpressive, imo.
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True. His brief attempt at being Leader was embarrassing, viz the Godwin Grech fiasco.

sptrawler said:
+1 he may as well run as an independent.
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He will never do that. No path to being a Party Leader there. He wants to be PM or at the very least Leader of the Opposition. Clearly dislikes following orders which is understandable given his previous entrepreneurial background.

noco said:
Yes I agree. He is too close Labor's ideology.

The only thing Turnbull has going for him is, he is more handsome than Abbott and the majority of women fall for looks all the time. Does not matter what his policies are so long as he is good lookin'. :D:D
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You're probably right, noco, much as I dislike conceding that. He's very personable in appearance, voice and bearing.
 
If I were Tony Abbott I would be a bit worried about Mal Brough being in the next parliament, as he certainly will be if he gets pre-selected, for Slipper's seat of Fisher.
 
Calliope said:
If I were Tony Abbott I would be a bit worried about Mal Brough being in the next parliament, as he certainly will be if he gets pre-selected, for Slipper's seat of Fisher.
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Agree. Mr Brough was a pretty impressive performer imo.
 
Calliope said:
If I were Tony Abbott I would be a bit worried about Mal Brough being in the next parliament, as he certainly will be if he gets pre-selected, for Slipper's seat of Fisher.
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Julia said:
Agree. Mr Brough was a pretty impressive performer imo.
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Mal Brough is a fine performer, he helped Howard demolish Keating, however Tony Abbott is the best leader I've seen in this country since Keating, a true leader, with vision, endurance and a vision for our country.

gg
 
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