Tommy Robinson and the new Totalitarianism

[wayneL]

Sorry Wayne but that's not how it works.

You cannot debate/reason with a leftist.

You cannot debate/reason with a communist or socialist.

You cannot debate/reason with antifa (and that they are acting as nazi's and fascists ), other than with violence.

You cannot debate/reason with a radical feminist (hi Clem).

It seems you are absolutely correct.

 

[IFocus]

Morning Komrade. I like you Wayne, you bring mirth and merriment to my day.
Do you really think a person with a rap sheet which includes "convictions for violence, financial and immigration frauds, drug possession, public order offences, and contempt of court" is really a person who should be an advisor to Politicians? Sounds like his character hasn't changed.

DK your missing the point its more important to discuss the evils of "leftest" and politicise than to actually address the claimed problem.

Far more important to down play the behaviour of a narcissistic attention seeking name changing convicted wife bashing violent criminal............sheez next thing people will be supporting the election of a man bragging about sexually assaulting women and lying about......hang on

 

[wayneL]

DK your missing the point its more important to discuss the evils of "leftest" and politicise than to actually address the claimed problem.

Far more important to down play the behaviour of a narcissistic attention seeking name changing convicted wife bashing violent criminal............sheez next thing people will be supporting the election of a man bragging about sexually assaulting women and lying about......hang on

And still not a single stern word for the pedophile gangs from the Komrades.

Interesting.

 

[Darc Knight]

Dem Commies!!!

I thought this thread was about some person of dubious character being kept in solitary, fed a tin of Tuna daily, waterboarded, flogged etc not about some Paedophiles?

P.S. By the sounds of it this Tommy Robinson/Wayne King has quite a big mouth, not a good thing at all in Jail I'm told. Probably upset the wrong people in there.
Any evidence of his claims?

 

[IFocus]

If I can just help out Wayne here.

For the uninitiated when creating a label and attaching negative connotations to it then applying to any one that may question please be sure you pronounce the word correctly.

Lets take "leftest" be sure you add some spittle at the correct junction as in "left-spittle-est" it requires practice alto comes naturally to some

Hope this helps.

 

[dutchie]

SWIM Wayne SWIM !

 

[Darc Knight]

Yeah

RUN Forrest RUN!

 

[wayneL]

Ah so we've regressed to the juvenile.

Well done children, keep ignoring the issue.

 

[explod]

And still not a single stern word for the pedophile gangs from the Komrades.

Interesting.

What's this Wayne, had a friend suicide from the abuse from a Christian Brother. Please in this case explain yourself CLEARLY Wayne.

 

[wayneL]

What's this Wayne, had a friend suicide from the abuse from a Christian Brother. Please in this case explain yourself CLEARLY Wayne.

You really haven't been following along, Plod, have you?
I am reticent to explain because as Bruce and Ifocus have adequately shown, it is futile, the left is just not prepared to listen to the issues, preferring to smear the messenger instead.

The fact is the grooming, rape, and torture of underage English girls by Muslim grooming gangs has been happening on an industrial scale for 30 years.

As to why the authorities have essentially turned a blind eye to this for so long is a matter of conjecture and I will hold my opinion to myself on this matter but nevertheless, this is not Urban Legend, it is real it has happened and continues to happen.

Meanwhile the idiots think the misdemeanors of Tommy Robinson are a big issue than that.

So join a side sir, figure out whether you think the rape of little girls or Petty intersectional politics is the bigger issue.

 

[bellenuit]

Any evidence of his claims?

Not sure which claims you are referring to, but if it is the grooming and rape of teenage girls by mainly Muslim groups in Huddersfield, there has been plenty of reporting:

https://www.google.com/search?ei=lI....2887.2-11j1......0....1..gws-wiz.5mab_uZPrc4

This refers to places other than Huddersfield:

Grooming gangs abused more than 700 women and girls around Newcastle after police appeared to punish victims

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-sanctuary-shelter-muslim-asian-a8225106.html

 

[Lantern]

There are three parts to this.

 

[basilio]

You really haven't been following along, Plod, have you?
I am reticent to explain because as Bruce and Ifocus have adequately shown, it is futile, the left is just not prepared to listen to the issues, preferring to smear the messenger instead.

The fact is the grooming, rape, and torture of underage English girls by Muslim grooming gangs has been happening on an industrial scale for 30 years.

As to why the authorities have essentially turned a blind eye to this for so long is a matter of conjecture and I will hold my opinion to myself on this matter but nevertheless, this is not Urban Legend, it is real it has happened and continues to happen.

Meanwhile the idiots think the misdemeanors of Tommy Robinson are a big issue than that.

So join a side sir, figure out whether you think the rape of little girls or Petty intersectional politics is the bigger issue.

This is where I really don't like where your going Wayne...

Has there been "industrial scale" grooming, rape and torture of underage girls by Muslim grooming gangs for 30 years ? Really ? How many in fact ? The article from The Independent explores a very wide range of abuse.

Not for a minute would I dispute the fact that some of this behaviour has occurred. As Bellenuit pointed out it has been raised and tackled as it must be.
What I find ................ is the way the far right ratbags have seized on these behaviours by particular people to demonise the whole Muslim religion and community and used these events to create an atmosphere of fear and loathing against all Muslims.

Let's be clear about our world. We now know that tens of thousands on children have been abused by religious people for many years in churches and schools and that this behaviour was systematically covered up by these authorities.
We know that this behaviour also happened in State run institutions, sporting groups, seemingly all religious groups, the BBC. How far do you want to dig when looking for the evils of pedophilia ?

It is all abhorrent. But it seems that the particular group of nasties you admire want to demonise an entire culture for the crimes of a few.

How would we respond if such an attack was made on all the above institutions that have also allowed such behaviours ?

 

[SirRumpole]

For people like Tommy, it's about the issues, the Islamisation of their country, and the pedaphile, largely Muslim, pedophile rape gangs, targetting children.

Ever thought that he really doesn't care about the issues but is just stirring up trouble for his own purposes like paid media appearances, books tv series ("The Life of Tommy perhaps), etc etc. ?

 

[wayneL]

This is where I really don't like where your going Wayne...

Has there been "industrial scale" grooming, rape and torture of underage girls by Muslim grooming gangs for 30 years ? Really ? How many in fact ? The article from The Independent explores a very wide range of abuse.

Not for a minute would I dispute the fact that some of this behaviour has occurred. As Bellenuit pointed out it has been raised and tackled as it must be.
What I find ................ is the way the far right ratbags have seized on these behaviours by particular people to demonise the whole Muslim religion and community and used these events to create an atmosphere of fear and loathing against all Muslims.

Let's be clear about our world. We now know that tens of thousands on children have been abused by religious people for many years in churches and schools and that this behaviour was systematically covered up by these authorities.
We know that this behaviour also happened in State run institutions, sporting groups, seemingly all religious groups, the BBC. How far do you want to dig when looking for the evils of pedophilia ?

It is all abhorrent. But it seems that the particular group of nasties you admire want to demonise an entire culture for the crimes of a few.

How would we respond if such an attack was made on all the above institutions that have also allowed such behaviours ?

A/ I couldn't give two sh1ts about where you think I'm going.

B/ If you were across the this issue as you clearly believe you are, you would know that Tommy has *always disavowed the extreme right.

Get yourself educated on this if you have any balls, a good start would be the videos @Lantern posted above.

Dare ya.

 

[Macquack]

Ever thought that he really doesn't care about the issues but is just stirring up trouble for his own purposes like paid media appearances, books tv series ("The Life of Tommy perhaps), etc etc. ?

I thought it was just me that viewed Thomas as a self indulged, self serving, self promoting buffoon. Apart from being the fraud that he is, I can't stand his personality as betrayed in his own videos. Is this part of his agenda, to have people hate him? One thing I can't tolerate is fake people.

 

[basilio]

A/ I couldn't give two sh1ts about where you think I'm going.

B/ If you were across the this issue as you clearly believe you are, you would know that Tommy has *always disavowed the extreme right.

Get yourself educated on this if you have any balls, a good start would be the videos @Lantern posted above.

Dare ya.

What absolute rot...
I pointed out one xxxxing simple point. Pedophilia is a scourage that has been exposed across many institutions and organizations. It is absolutely clear that it has been far more widespread and devastating in churches and other social organisations than the the actions of some nasty men who happen to be Muslim.

So why does "Tommy Robinson" and his associated the toe rags decide to froth at the mouth over the Muslim menace?

Your videos ? Sophisticated in the exact sense of the word.

 

[dutchie]

Unbelievable.

 

[Macquack]

This is where I really don't like where your going Wayne...

Has there been "industrial scale" grooming, rape and torture of underage girls by Muslim grooming gangs for 30 years ? Really ? How many in fact ? The article from The Independent explores a very wide range of abuse.

Not for a minute would I dispute the fact that some of this behaviour has occurred. As Bellenuit pointed out it has been raised and tackled as it must be.
What I find ................ is the way the far right ratbags have seized on these behaviours by particular people to demonise the whole Muslim religion and community and used these events to create an atmosphere of fear and loathing against all Muslims.

Let's be clear about our world. We now know that tens of thousands on children have been abused by religious people for many years in churches and schools and that this behaviour was systematically covered up by these authorities.
We know that this behaviour also happened in State run institutions, sporting groups, seemingly all religious groups, the BBC. How far do you want to dig when looking for the evils of pedophilia ?

It is all abhorrent. But it seems that the particular group of nasties you admire want to demonise an entire culture for the crimes of a few.

How would we respond if such an attack was made on all the above institutions that have also allowed such behaviours ?

Good post, I never really thought about it that way before. Why aren't all the f*cking do-gooders like Tommy demonising ALL Catholics for the sins of a few extremist priests?

 

[Darc Knight]

Not sure which claims you are referring to, but if it is the grooming and rape of teenage girls by mainly Muslim groups in Huddersfield, there has been plenty of reporting:

https://www.google.com/search?ei=lI....2887.2-11j1......0....1..gws-wiz.5mab_uZPrc4

This refers to places other than Huddersfield:

Grooming gangs abused more than 700 women and girls around Newcastle after police appeared to punish victims

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-sanctuary-shelter-muslim-asian-a8225106.html

Wayne's O.P. was about claims Tommy Robinson was mistreated in Jail. NOT about Paedophiles.
Now the discussion has shifted.